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Basketball Shot Selection
Posted on 2/17/12 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 2/17/12 at 10:11 pm
Like a lot of other posters I think I have been too critical on this subject. I mean let's face it any shot that goes in is a good shot and any shot that doesn't is a bad shot. We can say we want certain players to take certain kind of shots but there really is no hard fast rule.
A three point shot is not a bad shot. It is who takes it, at what point in the game and does it go in or not. Stringer is not at fault for taking a lot of threes. He is at fault for missing so many of them. In other words does he shoot a high enough percentage to justify taking so many. Up to now the answer has been no. That could change if they start dropping.
Are they good 3's? Are they too far out, is he open, does he rush them? Are they taken too quickly in the shot clock, is it a critical time of the game when we need to try and get a foul? All these are factors that need to be looked at.
Are all shorter shots better than a three. Of course not. A straight in hook shot from 15 feet has a degree of difficulty equal to a three. Again apply the same principals. Has the person shooting shown he can make this type of shot? Is he being double teamed, is he rushing it, do we have a better option if he passes?
And don't get me started about the bunnies under the basket that get missed. How can you miss one that close and easy? Well maybe someone got away with a foul. Perhaps they were too far under the basket? The ball started to slip just when they started to shoot?
So I am saying, maybe, just maybe we should not be quite so hard on the team and Trent on this shot selection thing. But then again maybe the players need to work a little harder on this. I just hope they start going in more frequently because as I said any shot that goes in is a good one.
A three point shot is not a bad shot. It is who takes it, at what point in the game and does it go in or not. Stringer is not at fault for taking a lot of threes. He is at fault for missing so many of them. In other words does he shoot a high enough percentage to justify taking so many. Up to now the answer has been no. That could change if they start dropping.
Are they good 3's? Are they too far out, is he open, does he rush them? Are they taken too quickly in the shot clock, is it a critical time of the game when we need to try and get a foul? All these are factors that need to be looked at.
Are all shorter shots better than a three. Of course not. A straight in hook shot from 15 feet has a degree of difficulty equal to a three. Again apply the same principals. Has the person shooting shown he can make this type of shot? Is he being double teamed, is he rushing it, do we have a better option if he passes?
And don't get me started about the bunnies under the basket that get missed. How can you miss one that close and easy? Well maybe someone got away with a foul. Perhaps they were too far under the basket? The ball started to slip just when they started to shoot?
So I am saying, maybe, just maybe we should not be quite so hard on the team and Trent on this shot selection thing. But then again maybe the players need to work a little harder on this. I just hope they start going in more frequently because as I said any shot that goes in is a good one.
Posted on 2/17/12 at 10:18 pm to Tom Bronco
quote:yea this is just a bit wrong.
I mean let's face it any shot that goes in is a good shot and any shot that doesn't is a bad shot. We can say we want certain players to take certain kind of shots but there really is no hard fast rule.
quote:so is this
A three point shot is not a bad shot. It is who takes it, at what point in the game and does it go in or not.
Posted on 2/18/12 at 8:57 am to Tom Bronco
quote:I'm still firmly on the we take too many bad shots wagon.
Like a lot of other posters I think I have been too critical on this subject. I mean let's face it any shot that goes in is a good shot and any shot that doesn't is a bad shot. We can say we want certain players to take certain kind of shots but there really is no hard fast rule.
Trent has seen all these kids enough to know what a bad shot for each of them is. He knows there are bad shots being taken game in and game out. But his philosiphy is to overlook that to establish trust and not crush confidence. To me trust is a two way street some of the kids are violating a bit too much and Trent's gotta start holding them to account.
Now, some folks think that taking a wide-open shot in rhythm is a bad shot just because there might be more than 20 seconds on the shot clock. I totally disagree with that.
But dribble step-back 3's by Turner and Hickey...30-footers by both, contested 3's by both. 15-foot fallaways by JOB3 and White, Contested jumpers and the occasional wild drive by Isaac....these are all no-brainer bad shots IMHO and yet there seems to be little or no accountability for that.
We got behind State early with that kind of shot selection (coupled with bad defense) Then gave the lead back in the second half with the same kind of stuff.
Trent's not gonna stop it, so let's just hope his kids start returning some of that trust and make responsible decisions on their own limitations.
Posted on 2/18/12 at 9:37 am to Tiger Ugly
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I'm still firmly on the we take too many bad shots wagon.
Posted on 2/18/12 at 10:58 am to Tom Bronco
yea it is what it is at this point. may as well just hope that they get some to fall.
Posted on 2/18/12 at 12:05 pm to S
its not gonna change people, this has been going on since Bo Spencer was here
Posted on 2/18/12 at 12:36 pm to cowboy4ever
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its not gonna change people, this has been going on since Bo Spencer was here
Well it's not like Bo Spencer invented the bad shot. The problem this year is that we have two wingmen who jack it up as soon as they touch it even though they're shooting ~35% on the year.
I still think Storm Warren should be playing more minutes because, if nothing else, he's the best on the team at getting offensive rebounds and quick putbacks.
Posted on 2/18/12 at 12:56 pm to Cold Cous Cous
I didn't say that Bo invented it ,but if it hasn't been fixed by now what makes you think it will
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