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Basketball 2 deep lineup?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:58 am
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:58 am
I caught parts of the exhibition 2 days ago but not all.
Those that saw it, who would you project as 2 deep lineup? Assume Victor is in there.
Those that saw it, who would you project as 2 deep lineup? Assume Victor is in there.
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:06 am to GeismarGeauxer
PG
Patterson
Mays
SG
Blakeney
Heyward
SF
Sampson
Simms
PF
Victor
Reath
C
Reath
ER3
This is my best guess. I could be wrong
This team could surprise and be a bubble team. IF and only IF they play defense. I'm not concerned with scoring. Perimeter D has been awful under Jones..........just awful
Also, Sampson and Patterson can slide over to the 2 if needed. Victor, Reath, and ER3 on the floor together when we go big or need to matchup size.
We can go small and run as well. hopefully our shooters are consistent
ETA: my bad, I forgot about Jenkins
Patterson
Mays
SG
Blakeney
Heyward
SF
Sampson
Simms
PF
Victor
Reath
C
Reath
ER3
This is my best guess. I could be wrong
This team could surprise and be a bubble team. IF and only IF they play defense. I'm not concerned with scoring. Perimeter D has been awful under Jones..........just awful
Also, Sampson and Patterson can slide over to the 2 if needed. Victor, Reath, and ER3 on the floor together when we go big or need to matchup size.
We can go small and run as well. hopefully our shooters are consistent
ETA: my bad, I forgot about Jenkins
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 11:13 am
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:17 am to GeismarGeauxer
C
Reath
ER III
PF
Victor
Epps
SF
Jenkins (When he is able to return)
Sampson
SG
Blakeney
Hayward
PG
Mays
Patterson
Don't think Sims plays much, if he does, it'll be more as a PF against smaller teams...or as a relief to Sampson until Jenkins can play. I also dont think Bridgewater plays much at all either. He is just too short to play PF or C against anyone unless they play a 4 guard lineup. Very situational player...much like ER III, who also I dont think plays much unless we're playing a very tall tough physical center in a half court team. Basically a matchup only player.
Jenkins I have over Sampson because of his defense. He will be the shutdown matchup guard we need to stifle the "Best" guard on an opposing team. I hope he's able to return soon.
Epps at the 4, he's not a 4 really at all except size wise. We dont have any bigs though, so he needs to play there. With victor suspended we are dangerously terrible at the big man spot at the moment.
Mays over Patterson at PG. Honestly not a tough decision there. Patterson is really a 5'11 SG that can handle a ball "okay" - not really distribute at all. Mays is a distributor and that's what we need at PG. Do not be surprised if Marshall Graves actually logs some minutes at PG this season. We just dont have true PGs on this team outside of Mays.
Reath
ER III
PF
Victor
Epps
SF
Jenkins (When he is able to return)
Sampson
SG
Blakeney
Hayward
PG
Mays
Patterson
Don't think Sims plays much, if he does, it'll be more as a PF against smaller teams...or as a relief to Sampson until Jenkins can play. I also dont think Bridgewater plays much at all either. He is just too short to play PF or C against anyone unless they play a 4 guard lineup. Very situational player...much like ER III, who also I dont think plays much unless we're playing a very tall tough physical center in a half court team. Basically a matchup only player.
Jenkins I have over Sampson because of his defense. He will be the shutdown matchup guard we need to stifle the "Best" guard on an opposing team. I hope he's able to return soon.
Epps at the 4, he's not a 4 really at all except size wise. We dont have any bigs though, so he needs to play there. With victor suspended we are dangerously terrible at the big man spot at the moment.
Mays over Patterson at PG. Honestly not a tough decision there. Patterson is really a 5'11 SG that can handle a ball "okay" - not really distribute at all. Mays is a distributor and that's what we need at PG. Do not be surprised if Marshall Graves actually logs some minutes at PG this season. We just dont have true PGs on this team outside of Mays.
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 10:20 am
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:35 am to pellietigersaint
Mays needs to start.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:45 am to UptownnMike
Mays needs to start.
agreed but he may have to outplay patterson on the floor during the 10 game junior league schedule to break the starting lineup. Mays didn't play one lick of defense in the exhibition
agreed but he may have to outplay patterson on the floor during the 10 game junior league schedule to break the starting lineup. Mays didn't play one lick of defense in the exhibition
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:49 am to thunderbird1100
quote:
it'll be more as a PF against smaller teams...or as a relief to Sampson until Jenkins can play
Is not eligible to the spring semester? what's the word here?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:58 am to GeismarGeauxer
I personally feel Mays will for sure start. Wouldn't be shocked to see a lineup of
Reath
Epps
Blakeney
Patterson
Mays
against Wofford. I think once everyone is healthy and eligible, it will be:
Reath
Victor
Blakeney
Jenkins
Mays
I cannot overstate enough how crucial Jenkins is. Remember a few years ago how good Charles Carmouche was for our team? Jenkins won't be able to shoot like that, but his athleticism and defense will be something we greatly need. Even more needed, he is going to bring a Chicago toughness that we have lacked. He also ran the Point some in Juco so I think he can play there (Johnny really doesn't want to use Patterson at PG).
I've said it for months, I really like our team. They're not world beaters or anything, but I think they will play hard and compete. I don't expect much, but I am rooting for them.
Reath
Epps
Blakeney
Patterson
Mays
against Wofford. I think once everyone is healthy and eligible, it will be:
Reath
Victor
Blakeney
Jenkins
Mays
I cannot overstate enough how crucial Jenkins is. Remember a few years ago how good Charles Carmouche was for our team? Jenkins won't be able to shoot like that, but his athleticism and defense will be something we greatly need. Even more needed, he is going to bring a Chicago toughness that we have lacked. He also ran the Point some in Juco so I think he can play there (Johnny really doesn't want to use Patterson at PG).
I've said it for months, I really like our team. They're not world beaters or anything, but I think they will play hard and compete. I don't expect much, but I am rooting for them.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:59 am to pellietigersaint
Injury
Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:01 am to thunderbird1100
What is the story with Jenkins - what is his injury and when will he be able to return?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:07 am to pellietigersaint
Defense and turnovers will be the biggest obstacle for this group to overcome. Difficulty is due to combination of coaching issues, lack of experience playing together, and youth. I think the NCAA tourny is probably out of reach. Best hope will be NIT. Interesting to see if Jones can be competitive enough to keep his job. With the plethora of guards, Jones will likely due a lot of experimenting until he finds a combination he likes. Blakeney and Sampson may get a lot time playing together as I guess that Jones will run a lot of 3 guard lineups. Mays and Patterson will vie for point guard, but Jones may opt to use rotating guard to bring ball up the court and run offense. Hopefully, Jenkins gets healthy as we will need toughness and defense he reportedly will bring. If Hayward can play D, he may receive significant playing time as his 3 point shot looked good in the exhibition. I'm thinking that there will a lot of Reath and Victor playing together along with the 3 guard lineup. There may be times when either Epps or Sims is added for size to go along with two guards. I'm still not convinced that Robinson will receive a ton of playing time unless he is needed to bang with another slow moving 7 footer, foul trouble or injuries to other big men. I'm getting excited, but team needs to show me something.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:26 pm to GeismarGeauxer
Branden Jenkins will be on of our best defenders. He will play a lot.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 8:59 pm to dj30
quote:
Injury
When is he expected back?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:14 pm to pellietigersaint
How did Heyward look?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:19 pm to ellishughtiger
Slow white boy who can shoot when wide open.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:21 pm to FriscoTiger
Sounds like the making of the next JJ Reddick
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:21 pm to FriscoTiger
I disagree on Hayward. I thought he got up and down the court well, and threw down some nice dunks in 2nd half warm-ups.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 9:48 pm to pellietigersaint
I spoke to Johnny about the team and he is really excited about Reath . He said two guys to look out for were of course Blakeney and Reath. He really really had high praise for him. I haven't seen him play yet anyone with any feedback on him?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:29 pm to Beaux
Reathlooked great against a bunch of 6-4 guys. My guess is he will struggle with fouls against better competition.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:01 pm to FriscoTiger
Although I see Mays beating out Patterson; I wouldn't be surprised if we went stretches with neither of them on the court.
I think Epps is our wild-card. If he could play anywhere near his potential and earn a job in the starting line-up, we would have sufficient depth to be decent. Reath and Victor are going to go hard and pick up fouls. Without Epps stepping up the front court will be weak.
Mays, Patterson
Quarterman, Jenkins
Sampson, Jenkins
Victo,Epps
Reath, Victor
I think Epps is our wild-card. If he could play anywhere near his potential and earn a job in the starting line-up, we would have sufficient depth to be decent. Reath and Victor are going to go hard and pick up fouls. Without Epps stepping up the front court will be weak.
Mays, Patterson
Quarterman, Jenkins
Sampson, Jenkins
Victo,Epps
Reath, Victor
Posted on 11/9/16 at 11:49 pm to HSHoopscoach
quote:something is out of place here
Mays, Patterson
Quarterman, Jenkins
Sampson, Jenkins
Victo,Epps
Reath, Victor
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 11:49 pm
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