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re: Baskerville and Battle killed us this game.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:34 pm to DCtiger1
Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:34 pm to DCtiger1
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What a joke. Burrow played well.
This was his worst game by far. He got rattled and was staring down his receivers. UGa, State and Bama will all blitz the hell out of him until he learns to deal with it and/or audibles around it.
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 12:55 pm to LSUERDOC
As far as the DB’s go ; Joseph really hurt us
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:04 pm to RB10
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One thing Saturday definitely showed us: Outside of WR, the team has MAJOR depth issues.
But muh recruitin?!?!?
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:25 pm to jw5377
Am I the only one who realizes Moreau is not an SEC quality blocker? Watching him get absolutely destroyed by Reese when he tried the kick out block was just embarrassing. I was genuinely surprised he was able to get back up.
I have been excited when he gets a catch, but is he enough of an offensive weapon in the passing game that it makes up for not being able to run block? Do we have anyone else on the roster who can do better?
I have been excited when he gets a catch, but is he enough of an offensive weapon in the passing game that it makes up for not being able to run block? Do we have anyone else on the roster who can do better?
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:41 pm to km
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Baskerville was way over-rated coming out of high school. Package deal. Battle just plain out can't tackle. Seems timid.
No. He’s going to be a good player for us. He’s young.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:42 pm to km
He’s a true freshmen who had to play because of an injury.
He also was rated as a guy who was supposed to come in right away and start.
Also who the frick was he a package deal with? He was one of our best recruits.
He also was rated as a guy who was supposed to come in right away and start.
Also who the frick was he a package deal with? He was one of our best recruits.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:14 pm to jw5377
I don't think Battle was terrible. He made some nice plays in the 3Q, one on 3rd down keeping the WR behind the sticks. And on the drive before that, made a 1 on 1 tackle on 2nd down that ended in a 3/out.
Baskerville looks instinctual enough. HE needs to add strength though. They repeatedly ran through him on Saturday.
Baskerville looks instinctual enough. HE needs to add strength though. They repeatedly ran through him on Saturday.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:32 pm to Lester Earl
quote:This is what I saw as well. Baskerville was in position on a number of plays but the RB ran through his tackle. He’s just not big/strong enough yet, but that will come with time.
Baskerville looks instinctual enough. HE needs to add strength though. They repeatedly ran through him on Saturday.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:42 pm to km
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Baskerville was way over-rated coming out of high school
I watched his highlights and I think he’s going to be an All-SEC level LB before he leaves LSU.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 3:33 pm to Lakeboy7
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Wrong. He is a true freshman, he will be a really good player for us
Agree. Baskerville had 11 tackles. He definitely missed some tackles and gaps, but he can play. That’s a tall order for a true freshman to walk into that venue for your first start.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 3:38 pm to jw5377
I was disappointed in our return game especially on punts.... you can’t tell me LSU doesn’t have ANYONE else who is faster and can beat out Giles.... dude looks like he is running in sand... 
Posted on 10/8/18 at 3:39 pm to km
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Baskerville was way over-rated coming out of high school.
uhhhh this was his first career start and against some very physical (perine) and elusive (scarlett) RBs. He didn't play well, but he's only 18 years old. Stop shitting on the kid for one bad game. god damn
Posted on 10/8/18 at 3:40 pm to jw5377
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John Battle has been getting abused his entire career
FIFY
Posted on 10/8/18 at 3:50 pm to lovinLSU
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I was disappointed in our return game especially on punts.... you can’t tell me LSU doesn’t have ANYONE else who is faster and can beat out Giles.... dude looks like he is running in sand...
They put Kirklin back there and he fumbled.
Returning punts is not easy, so I think (unfortunately) they are going with the guy they at least trust to catch the ball and essentially conceding a minimal return. But that doesn't excuse a guy catching the ball with little field awareness.
Honestly, I feel bad for Giles. You can tell he's pressing and really wants to make a play. That's clouding his judgement. Fielding punts when he shouldn't. Calling fair catches on returnable punts.
His value is as a slot possession WR. He's not a game breaker in this offense (BTW Where the hell is Chase?!).
I guess the question is who do you put back there? Do you increase the risk of a turnover in exchange for the potential reward of a good return? Or do you just accept the punt return game will be non existent but at least it (shouldn't) kill you (provided you are fielding punts inside the 10)
Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:27 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:reading Lester's notes I got the impression he was making the mistakes freshmen LBs tend to make. They were along the lines of "got sucked into wrong gap" and "blew by _______". No reason to judge him a bust based off of that (not you LE, but others here).
I think he will too. He just isnt' ready to play this year, at least not that much.
He had good instincts on a good bit of plays, just could'nt finish the play. I'd expect those plays to be made as he gets more experience. I would say i saw promising stuff from him, and that him playing instead of Philips played a large part in us losing.
and i've been saying for quite some time now that Battle just isn't good, and i usually get downvoted to high heaven for it. He's not a kid, he's been here for 6 years, and he's not a good safety at all. He's like DJ Welter out there.
I personally think he's going to be a good one. Also one thing I gleaned, or think I did, from those same notes was that he was displaying good instincts. And that is one thing you can't teach, buy, or cajole into a LB. That is the difference between a RB and a LB.
Battle... different story. I fail to see the value there. I hate it for him, and bless him for battling through some really tough injuries, but we have some young bucks I'd rather see either do better, or take lumps with the same result to be better later.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:59 pm to redbean5
I agree. These players weren't accustomed to being mentioned in the limelight of college football. There's a lot of national attention that goes with being the # 5 ranked team. They played as though they had already won the game and just had to show up. Not wrapping up on tackles, missed blocks, etc. and all these things make the difference in a game. I have no doubt LSU has more talent than Fla., they just didn't prove it. If, and that's a big IF, this team can come together and start playing hard and smart every game, they might have a chance to beat Ga. and every other team except Sabama. They will need to play exceptionally well and get a little help against Sabama. LSU just doesn't have the OC to compete with Sabama. Nor do they have the depth. In 1979 there were co NC's, USC and Alabama, LSU played both teams and nearly won both games. But that 79 LSU team had a lot of heart, not so much talent as Alabama or USC, but a lot of heart. Heart is what this LSU team needs to win out. I just haven't seen a lot of heart from this team so far this season.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:33 pm to ParrishGore
Baskerville is young and should not be playing yet. There was nothing we could do about that. Kid will be great in the future. It was just one of those situations.
Battle on the other hand has been doing what he has been doing. Nothing. I have been saying it. Without good corner play we struggle. Battle can not play safety that great. He is no where on the level of the other guys that are back there with him. He can not cover and his tackling has always been suspect.
Giles.... Giles is not good people. I guess in a Texas Tech offense you have no choice but to look good because there was so many throws. His value as a punt returner is he only calls fair catches. He is not fast at all. Someone else said his value is a slot receiver. Have you watch the games. He is not good. Slow is a better term. He literally plays like a sign post. If the ball hits him in his hands he is fine, he will not run away from anyone. There has got to be someone else on this team that can catch a punt and is faster than him.
Battle on the other hand has been doing what he has been doing. Nothing. I have been saying it. Without good corner play we struggle. Battle can not play safety that great. He is no where on the level of the other guys that are back there with him. He can not cover and his tackling has always been suspect.
Giles.... Giles is not good people. I guess in a Texas Tech offense you have no choice but to look good because there was so many throws. His value as a punt returner is he only calls fair catches. He is not fast at all. Someone else said his value is a slot receiver. Have you watch the games. He is not good. Slow is a better term. He literally plays like a sign post. If the ball hits him in his hands he is fine, he will not run away from anyone. There has got to be someone else on this team that can catch a punt and is faster than him.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:38 pm to Lakeboy7
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Wrong. He is a true freshman, he will be a really good player for us.
I love the way this thread is bashing the guy who lead the team in tackles in this game... Next two behind him were Battle and Delpit.
All this hate from people who never played the game at this level. Just a bunch of Fantasy League coaches.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:52 pm to GetmorewithLes
This keeps getting repeated, but wtf does it matter that he led the team in tackles? He missed as much as he made.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 8:03 pm to DCtiger1
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but wtf does it matter that he led the team in tackles?
Well nobody else made em before he did!
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