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re: Baseball guys ... please explain something to me.

Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:37 pm to
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I appreciate the reasonable response.


It wasn't the right answer. They do it to move the runner in scoring position while minimizing the chance of a double play. They do it with a lead or trailing.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:37 pm to
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The whole job of the #2 hitter is to move the lead off guy over for the heart of the lineup to get him in.


No. Your #2 hitter should be one of the better hitters on the team, as he in the long run will get the #2 most at bats. If you don't trust him to hit, why would you want the 2nd most at bats being wasted.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:38 pm to
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It's much easier to get a bunt down than a full swing. A bunt ensures no double play while a hard hit on the hit and run can still get you at 2nd.


You're out of your element here, Ricky. This ain't no football thread.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:40 pm to
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They do it with a lead or trailing.



It was 0-0, bottom of the fricking first ... and a dude that had been in a miserable slump got fricken hit.


Why not let #2 have a shot? Instead of being a sure out ... maybe he hits a double. Gotta assume he is batting #2 because he doesn't suck.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:40 pm to
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You're out of your element here, Ricky. This ain't no football thread. 


Uh... I'm right.

Hit and run there is still a chance at a dp. A bunt isnt. Sorry bruh.
It's far easier making contact with a bunt than a full swing. Middle school baseball players know that.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:43 pm to
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It was 0-0, bottom of the fricking first ... and a dude that had been in a miserable slump got fricken hit. 


Why not let #2 have a shot? Instead of being a sure out ... maybe he hits a double. Gotta assume he is batting #2 because he doesn't suck.


Give him a shite to hit into a double play and remove all our base runners?
A baseball coacg tries to minimize risk. A guy on 1st with no outs, the way to move him into scoring position while minimizing the chance of a double play is bunting or hit and run.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:44 pm to
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No. Your #2 hitter should be one of the better hitters on the team, as he in the long run will get the #2 most at bats. If you don't trust him to hit, why would you want the 2nd most at bats being wasted.


Again,you sacrifice the at bat for putting a runner in scoring position. Who do you think has more baseball knowledge? You or PM?
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:45 pm to
You play to your strengths, but conventional wisdom is to get runners into scoring position and limit DP scenarios.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29041 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:45 pm to
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the way to move him into scoring position while minimizing the chance of a double play is ... hit and run.



Doesn't that increase the risk that the hitter may miss the ball ... or OSU anticipates with a pitch-out ... and an excellent catcher throws out KRob for an out?

You just gave up one risk for another.


Bottom of the fricking first ... there is no risk to just letting the guy hit try to get a damn base hit.


Ended up with a DP anyway ... and, let the middle/bottom half swing away ... and looked what happened.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Doesn't that increase the risk that the hitter may miss the ball ... or OSU anticipates with a pitch-out ... and an excellent catcher throws out KRob for a DP? 


On a hit and run sure. No catcher is going to 2nd on a bunt.

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You just gave up one risk for another. 

No you didn't. If the bunt gets down the guy at 1st is going to be in scoring position where allowing the batter to hit brings up the chance for a dp.
Bunts don't end in double plays.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:50 pm to
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Bottom of the fricking first ... there is no risk to just letting the guy hit try to get a damn base hit. 


Yes there is.
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Ended up with a DP anyway

No it didn't. Good god.



Let me guess. You know more baseball than PM too. Head coaches minimize risk. A guy on 1st with no outs. The best way to get him in scoring while minimizing the risk of a double play is sac bunting.

You asked people to explain then shot down every response.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:52 pm to
There are other ways ... as proven in this game.....


But carry on...
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:55 pm to
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There are other ways ... as proven in this game.....


Please show me where i said the only way is bunting. I said the way to move him into scoring WHILE MINIMIZING THE RISK OF DOUBLE PLAYis sac bunting and the head coach of LSU agrees.

Try to keep up if you're gonna contribute.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29041 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:56 pm to
So...the 1st inning did not end on a DP?

Ok..I ain't going back to check.
Posted by 3oliv3
Member since Aug 2016
691 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:56 pm to


you score .2 more runs with a runner on first no outs than a runner on second one out. Bunting is dumb.
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:59 pm to
Jesus stfu. I thought you were only this horrible in football threads
Posted by navy
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:16 pm to
ONCE AGAIN ... BRILLIANT frickING STRATEGY IN THE 7TH!



Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Again,you sacrifice the at bat for putting a runner in scoring position. Who do you think has more baseball knowledge? You or PM?


I don't have an issue with it. I have an issue with the person saying you should do it because he's not seeing the ball well.

I recognize the college game is a tad different than the pros, but if your #2 isn't hitting it's still retarded to just say hey let's constantly but him.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:25 pm to
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I don't have an issue with it. I have an issue with the person saying you should do it because he's not seeing the ball well. 



I got ya.
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recognize the college game is a tad different than the pros, but if your #2 isn't hitting it's still retarded to just say hey let's constantly but him.


They dont always do it. Normally just man on 1st with no outs.
But yeah youd think your # 2 hitter would swing away.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:26 pm to
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Jesus stfu. I thought you were only this horrible in football threads


Oh shut the frick up. I'm replying to posts directed at me bitch.
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