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Baseball guys ... please explain something to me.

Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:24 pm
Am I the only one that is bothered by the 1st inning, leadoff hit ... #2 guy up ... 0 outs obviously ... and, they make it sound like the only options for LSU are to either hit & run or sac-bunt. Or ... perhaps believed to be the best options.

I guess I get it ... but, I just don't like it.

It's not like 1 run will likely win this game.

It's the first fricking inning ... OSU went 3 up/down ... unless we flat-out don't think #2 hitter can hit ... why not just let him try to get a damn base hit?


(which...incidentally...has been working out well in the bottom half of the order)


Again... I get it ... just don't like it in the 1st inning.


What am I missing here?

(I realize that I will get smart-arse responses from some of the baseball snobs/pricks.)

Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32446 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:25 pm to
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What am I missing here?


Alot
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35652 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:25 pm to
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What am I missing here? 
A pair of balls
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71428 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:26 pm to
TD Ameritrade isn't exactly known for a power game.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21082 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:26 pm to
If you do it and score first...then do it again later in the game and score a run..and so on, the runs start to add up. I have no problems with it.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:27 pm to
I played baseball until I was 14 so I can explain.

Bunt was dumb.

Hit and run was the right play to avoid DP.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8336 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:27 pm to
Because you want to put the first run on the board in games like this. It's a mental edge.

We are 33-3 when scoring first.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14815 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:28 pm to
If a player isn't making good decisions at the plate, or isn't seeing the ball well, sometimes the coach takes away that variable from the player, and simplifies his responsibility
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

Am I the only one that is bothered by the 1st inning, leadoff hit ... #2 guy up ... 0 outs obviously ... and, they make it sound like the only options for LSU are to either hit & run or sac-bunt. Or ... perhaps believed to be the best options. 


It's so we move a guy into scoring position while minimizing the chance of a double play.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71428 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:29 pm to
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If a player isn't making good decisions at the plate, or isn't seeing the ball well, sometimes the coach takes away that variable from the player, and simplifies his responsibility


He shouldn't be batting 2nd in that situation.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59159 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:29 pm to
I hate the bunt there. Outs are way too precious to be giving them one in the 1st. The hit and run, however, can oftentimes lead to big innings. That would have been the better call of the 2 for sure. And Burke was saying it's not much of a gamble because dude throws so slow he's probably not gonna make Freeman miss or pop up.
Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
3493 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:29 pm to
I see both sides of the argument. You get the bunt down and now you have your 3-4 hitters to get a hit and score an early run. Early run gets you some confidence and momentum.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29049 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:32 pm to
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TD Ameritrade isn't exactly known for a power game.



Well ... so much for that theory.


(I know, though.)
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:34 pm to
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I hate the bunt there


It's much easier to get a bunt down than a full swing. A bunt ensures no double play while a hard hit on the hit and run can still get you at 2nd.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:34 pm to
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He shouldn't be batting 2nd in that situation.




The whole job of the #2 hitter is to move the lead off guy over for the heart of the lineup to get him in.

The same way a dlineman's job is to eat up blocks so the LBers can make a play.
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2009 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:34 pm to
Baseball sense.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29049 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

Because you want to put the first run on the board in games like this. It's a mental edge.

We are 33-3 when scoring first.


Fair enough ... I did not know that stat.


I appreciate the reasonable response.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14815 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:35 pm to
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He shouldn't be batting 2nd in that situation.



Kinda... he still has all the skill sets that got him there in the first place, which tells me it's more about what's between the ears than anything... think of it as a way to manufacture a slump buster
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22943 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:35 pm to
Baseball gods. You dont argue with them. You just accept it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

The whole job of the #2 hitter is to move the lead off guy over for the heart of the lineup to get him in. 

The same way a dlineman's job is to eat up blocks so the LBers can make a play.


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