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Balanced offense

Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:00 pm
Posted by jmaginnis
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2012
138 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:00 pm
Outside of Navy and Air Force, LSU runs the ball over 70% of the time. We have the lowest passing offense of any team in a power 5 conference. Please let that sink in. Last year we were no different. Les is the reason we are in this spot offensively. Arkansas has 2 less rushing attempts this season but has over 100 more pass attempts this season and is more like 55/45 run pass. Please remember that Les is downright insulted by the thought that anyone would consider a more balanced attack. Miles is the most frustrating coach ever.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:01 pm to
Hopefully miles keeps winning and keeps you pussies crying.
Posted by jmaginnis
Prairieville
Member since Apr 2012
138 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:08 pm to
I love LSU but not our coaches philosophy. The man is insane
Posted by lsuguru
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2007
1782 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:14 pm to
Here's to another 2-3 loss season with a loss in a shitty bowl game!

If that is the type of season excites you, congrats. Miles is your savior. We have one of the most talented teams in the country every year and Miles seems to piss it away.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:35 pm to
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hopefully miles keeps winning and keeps you pussies crying.


I love LSU and will pull for the Tigers in fricking cricket hopping if it becomes a sport. Hell, I'll set up a tailgate for it!

I have never left any football game early.

You, BF5, are too much knighting for miles all the time. Surely, even you, see the need to be more balanced and creative on offense.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4344 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:43 pm to
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Outside of Navy and Air Force, LSU runs the ball over 70% of the time. We have the lowest passing offense of any team in a power 5 conference. Please let that sink in. Last year we were no different. Les is the reason we are in this spot offensively.


We have the second highest scoring offense in the SEC including the 10 point Bama game. That's all that matters --> points. Let that sink in you dope.

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Arkansas has 2 less rushing attempts this season but has over 100 more pass attempts this season and is more like 55/45 run pass.

Arkansas is 5-4 you dumbfrick.

The Alabama game was essentially called 50:50 run to pass.

He adjusted the gameplan yet you dumbfricks are too stupid to realize it.

Our QB completed 6 passes. Our RB had 30 yards. Doesn't matter what the frick they called. The Oline got their shite pushed in by Bama Dline.

Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65956 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:47 pm to
winning what?

what has LSU won of late?

Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3431 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:20 pm to
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The Oline got their shite pushed in by Bama Dline.



There are adjustments to help your Offensive line when they are getting beat at the point of attack. Miles should have made adjustments. I'm convinced that Bama is not that much better than LSU, but the scheme and style was predictable and allowed Bama to read flow and attack gaps. NO counters. Basically heavy formations and no misdirection. The play calling was actually more balanced, but still played into Bama's strength in the running game.



Just sayin'
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 1:27 am
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14176 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:54 pm to
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We have one of the most talented teams in the country every year and Miles seems to piss it away.


Can't really argue with that. I've lost track of the talent that Miles and his staff have mismanaged in recent years. It's a wonder that he still recruits as well as he does. I love LSU, but the day that Les Miles is no longer coaching in Baton Rouge will be a happy one for me.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39348 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:01 am to
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There are adjustments to help your Offensive line when they are getting beat at the point of attack


There are? They tried to run and got stuffed. They tried to pass and threw incompletions and an interception. The only thing they could have done to be more competitive is recruit better.

Seriously, I'd lke to see them start the game with the play calling we saw in the second quarter. We probably still lose, but I'd love to see it. I think the coaches see enough of Harris in practice to know that he's just not ready for it. He's only in his second year, after all. At this point in his career AJ McCarron was handcuffed just like Harris, and Bama fans were totally frustrated with their offense.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10922 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:53 am to
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Hopefully miles keeps winning and keeps you pussies crying.
Wins aren't enough anymore.

Time for some SEC West Championships minimum.

Of course we all know you pathetic and pitiful non-competitive Pumper People rejoice in season after season of not having any kind of Championship to show.

Embrace the mediocrity and revel in the Sunshine it brings forth!
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16831 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 6:34 am to
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but the scheme and style was predictable and allowed Bama to read flow and attack gaps. NO counters. Basically heavy formations and no misdirection.


This has been Miles's problem all along.

I have no problem with a run first, conservative offense, but I'm frustrated that we use NO misdirection or counters at all, and very little read option. Very easy for a defense to read and when that defense is as talented as bama's, then it's trouble.

An example of a productive conservative offense is the Dallas Cowboys last year, with a healthy Romo, Demarco Murray as the feature back, and Dez Bryant.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:21 am to
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LSU runs the ball over 70% of the time.


Nobody here was bitching about this number for the first 7 games.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10177 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:33 am to
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Miles is the most frustrating coach ever.


Yes he is, but we should finish the year with one loss with a team we thought was rebuilding and would have 3 or more losses. So as frustrating as he is, he knows how to win.

Why is this a shock to everyone? We all know what he is gonna do every year but we all expect him to come out with some spread offense and pass 50 times a game. It just isn't gonna happen! I don't care who the OC is or who the QB is or how many WRs we put in the NFL we are first and foremost a running team, that isn't gonna change.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:46 am to
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We have the second highest scoring offense in the SEC including the 10 point Bama game. That's all that matters --> points. Let that sink in you dope.




Actually that's not all that matters. Winning the West matters more than average scoring offense including games against scrubs, and we can't win the West by doing the same thing over and over again against the one team in our way when it doesn't work. That is indeed the definition of insanity.

Half the people on this board at least clamored for more work in the passing game when we were playing those lesser teams for the sole reason that WE KNEW WE WOULD NEED IT AGAINST BAMA.

Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:47 am to
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Nobody here was bitching about this number for the first 7 games.



Not true.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8636 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:51 am to
The problem with us historically is a lack of qb competence. It's been refreshing to have Harris this year with some flashes of really good and exceptionally better management than often in the past.

But I think he still has a step or two to go from solid play damage control to leading the troops through hell and back, no matter the cost. And with the play calling (we WERE better balanced, but still flat and too conventional in the type of pass or run in all phases of the game when we were simply getting out-physicaled--if that's a word), that's what we'll need from him to win championships.

It is what it is. But I'm remembering the preseason "We'll have a decent year, but NEXT year is our run, considering our youth and lack of depth." I love our improvement from last year's season-long debacle to tip-of-the-championship iceberg this year. Keep pushing this year, it's within shot. AND look forward to returning talent next year.

But to reiterate, our O has progressively gotten more balanced, and looking decent while at it. But simple passes and simple runs are too easy to shut down for a talented team like Bama, especially when they match up physically.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4344 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:55 am to
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Actually that's not all that matters. Winning the West matters more than average scoring offense including games against scrubs, and we can't win the West by doing the same thing over and over again against the one team in our way when it doesn't work. That is indeed the definition of insanity.

Half the people on this board at least clamored for more work in the passing game when we were playing those lesser teams for the sole reason that WE KNEW WE WOULD NEED IT AGAINST BAMA.



Did you even read the breakdown of the second half?

Before the fumble in which Fournette ran 4 times to score a TD, the pass to run ratio was 11:6.

How is that not a change in game plan from a team than runs 70% of the time.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4307 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:59 am to
I said before and I'll say it again...Miles has NO IDEA that he has no idea. He is a very very very simple football mind.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17735 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:59 am to
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I love LSU and will pull for the Tigers in fricking cricket hopping if it becomes a sport. Hell, I'll set up a tailgate for it!

I have never left any football game early.

You, BF5, are too much knighting for miles all the time. Surely, even you, see the need to be more balanced and creative on offense.


He won't respond. BeeFense doesn't like rational discussion-he'd rather be a holier-than-thou dickhead.
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