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Asking for everyone's opinion.

Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:38 pm
Posted by Pistol 23
Member since Feb 2007
454 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:38 pm
Do you think Jay relies too much on the lefty/righty match-ups for hitting and pitching? Or do you think this is similar to most other coaches? Just wondering. In particular, I'm thinking about Loer since he is struggling so much. The guy was really good for Xavier last year and he can't seem to get anyone out. And yes, I know the level of competition is different.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77416 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:40 pm to
He seems to rely on it as much as mainieri. Everyone hated when paul did that too. I think he relies a bit too much on it, i prefer feel. But im not making a million dollars a year and dont have any college coaching wins. So maybe they know more than me
Posted by Breric
Member since Oct 2007
518 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:42 pm to
There’s been arguments all over the map. He’s brought in righties to face lefties that haven’t worked and he’s brought in lefties to face lefties that haven’t worked. Last year his decisions worked when they needed to and this year they haven’t so far. But we still have a game tomorrow to win the series.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35381 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:42 pm to
Brad Pitt didn’t care about lefty righty


I have always thought going lefty lefty had a better chance of being successful than righty righty just because everyone sees 10x the amount of right handed pitchers


That being said, if you don’t care about it with your starter, I don’t think you should manage the rest of the game only playing matchups
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71730 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:43 pm to
In general, I’m not as big a fan of shifting, pitching matchups, etc in the college game. It’s more wild and unpredictable.

But I also don’t see the numbers they have.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35381 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:45 pm to
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I’m not as big a fan of shifting,



I will never understand shifting and then throwing outside fastballs
Posted by LeGOAT
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:55 pm to
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I will never understand shifting and then throwing outside fastballs


I don’t have access to college numbers, but in the pros there are plenty of guys who hit 75% ground balls pullside, even outside fastballs. Middle-in fastballs they hit 400+ ft, outside fastballs ground ball to the SS off the end of the bat
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103071 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:12 am to
When you have 1 legit P you have to go with matchups.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14160 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:14 am to
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Asking for everyone's opinion.


What do you plan to do with this information?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35381 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:16 am to
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I don’t have access to college numbers, but in the pros there are plenty of guys who hit 75% ground balls pullside, even outside fastballs. Middle-in fastballs they hit 400+ ft, outside fastballs ground ball to the SS off the end of the bat



That’s assuming they aren’t trying to hit the ball where it is pitched. A lot easier to get a rollover into the pull on off speed
Posted by Pistol 23
Member since Feb 2007
454 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 12:48 am to
Nothing. Just curious if others felt like I did. I didn't realize when I started this thread that he was already being questioned about this tonight in another thread.
Posted by LeGOAT
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2023
50 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 1:18 am to
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That’s assuming they aren’t trying to hit the ball where it is pitched. A lot easier to get a rollover into the pull on off speed


Agree 100% regarding off speed. Hard in soft away is classic pitching sequence. But some guys just hit most ground balls to the pull side. See David Ortiz 2016 stats. 48% pull, 34.1% middle, 17.9% oppo of all batted balls. I linked his spray chart that shows the ground balls are 80%+ pullside. I’m sure JJ has these same charts on their opponents. The link to Ortiz’s spray charts is below. Check it out. 90% groundballs are pull side

David Ortiz Spray Charts 2016



Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30303 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 7:26 am to
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But im not making a million dollars a year and dont have any college coaching wins. So maybe they know more than me

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 7:34 am to
Jay is a slave to data. There is good and bad to it.

Baseball sometimes requires "skippering" and actually managing rather than going through analytics and letting it decide your moves.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35381 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 7:35 am to
I don’t disagree, but I would like to see the pitches those grounders came on. I would bet the bulk of them are on inside pitches
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36114 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:34 am to
LSU started 2-7 last year with this coach
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