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Are we too beholden to "Recruiting Services"?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:39 pm
I admit, I don't follow recruiting a ton. All I know is, every year after it's over, we are gloating about the x number of 4 or 5 stars we got.
Is part of our problem that our staff is overly-reliant on this rating system, and not really doing their own homework and/or not really recruiting to our needs at the particular time.
In looking at our offensive line and our overall defense, it seems like something has gone awry in this area of late.
Is part of our problem that our staff is overly-reliant on this rating system, and not really doing their own homework and/or not really recruiting to our needs at the particular time.
In looking at our offensive line and our overall defense, it seems like something has gone awry in this area of late.
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:41 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I honestly think CLM and CO are less "star struck" than a lot of big-name programs. We always have a handfull of three star players and lower rated in-state guys.
We're either just missing on our recruits (and I definitely see a lack of talent at certain positions--especially on the D) or recruiting the wrong boys for the system we run.
So no.
We're either just missing on our recruits (and I definitely see a lack of talent at certain positions--especially on the D) or recruiting the wrong boys for the system we run.
So no.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:45 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I think it's the opposite. We pass on higher ranked guys and pursue lower ranked guys every year. And we don't chase trolls. The Hootie Jones Soap opera resulting in Jamal Adams is a case in point.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:45 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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our offensive line
It's hard for 6 to block 8. Look at first down on Saturday night. We had a new qb, one who had previously been used in a more open offense. Auburn played a base defense, and we gashed them on first down most of the night. Now look at 2nd and 3rd down when the plays became more obvious. It looked like we couldn't block anyone. Basically, Auburn sold out to stop the run on 2nd and 3rd and short.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:46 pm to Y.A. Tittle
We are winning recruiting battles with Alabama (elite), Auburn (elite), A&M (elite), etc.
It's not about players initial talent. It's about development and putting them in a situation to succeed..aka NOT the I-Formation
It's not about players initial talent. It's about development and putting them in a situation to succeed..aka NOT the I-Formation
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:47 pm to Choupique19
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Choupique19
Fair point. It does seem like, at best, depth is a bit of a problem there, though.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:47 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:I don't think so. LSU recruits mostly from what they see with their own eyes at LSU's camps.
Are we too beholden to "Recruiting Services"?
quote:The problem with the o-line talent is why Stud is out and Grimes is in.
In looking at our offensive line and our overall defense, it seems like something has gone awry in this area of late.
The LSU secondary and its talent is not a problem. It's a strength.
The d-line is too young to call busts, and 2016 may be the best year ever for d-line talent.
IMHO, 2014 is, unfortunately, a doughnut hole for d-line talent.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:48 pm to Y.A. Tittle
The 2012 class was a disaster and it's killing us.
That class only has 14 players on the team other than punter and LS.
That's the class that's supposed to be true juniors and redshirt sophomores.
That class only has 14 players on the team other than punter and LS.
That's the class that's supposed to be true juniors and redshirt sophomores.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:49 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I think all of those combine type camps are the issue. A player knows the drills and can practice them. Very few linemen skills actually translate to real game experience. (slapping down a dummy and getting to qb, etc etc etc)
Kids practice the cone shuffle (whatever all that is called) and yet those actions don't translate to games, but they make you higher on the "board"
I personally think the lineman part of those drills is comical.
Let's take a nose guard. Let's say one registers off the charts in speed, agility, lateral moves, etc., so he naturally is higher on the board than a 360 lb monster that cannot be moved backwards and will clog up the middle with a strong push forward. The sexy pick is the more athletic one, but the one you want in the middle on game day is the immovable rock.
Kids practice the cone shuffle (whatever all that is called) and yet those actions don't translate to games, but they make you higher on the "board"
I personally think the lineman part of those drills is comical.
Let's take a nose guard. Let's say one registers off the charts in speed, agility, lateral moves, etc., so he naturally is higher on the board than a 360 lb monster that cannot be moved backwards and will clog up the middle with a strong push forward. The sexy pick is the more athletic one, but the one you want in the middle on game day is the immovable rock.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:04 pm to GeeOH
quote:Combines might skew the recruiting service rankings, but LSU does not rely primarily on recruiting services.
I think all of those combine type camps are the issue. A player knows the drills and can practice them. Very few linemen skills actually translate to real game experience. (slapping down a dummy and getting to qb, etc etc etc)
Kids practice the cone shuffle (whatever all that is called) and yet those actions don't translate to games, but they make you higher on the "board"
I personally think the lineman part of those drills is comical.
Let's take a nose guard. Let's say one registers off the charts in speed, agility, lateral moves, etc., so he naturally is higher on the board than a 360 lb monster that cannot be moved backwards and will clog up the middle with a strong push forward. The sexy pick is the more athletic one, but the one you want in the middle on game day is the immovable rock.
LSU runs their own camps. That's where LSU evaluates players.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:17 pm to Salviati
Yes, but we also spend a lot of time on recruiting the sexy players that are oos and don't come to camp. That's where the skewed ranking might hurt
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 6:52 pm
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