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Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by bryso
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:49 pm to
we were in the NC b/c West Virginia ALMOST beat Pitt...
Posted by martiansgohome
Maryland
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

3 of the teams you listed are undefeated


Did I say these teams were undefeated? I said All of these teams have shown they can be easily beaten. Texas and Texas Tech both have problems either on the lines are in the secondary.
Posted by UNCTarHeels
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:56 pm to
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Who has Vandy beaten? An Auburn team (at home) whose offense has put up 3, 14, 7 and 13 pts over the last 4 weeks? Until Vandy beats UF and/or UGA, they will stay low in the rankings.


I am glad somebody said that. If that is your argument to "why Vandy is ranked in the top 15" now use the same argument for LSU. Who have they beaten? Appy State 1-D1 hit wonders, North Texas, Auburn(who like you said hast scored more then 14 and barely beat a rag tag MSU team who LSU only beat by 10. So I ask this now after a legitimate argument, who has LSU beaten to deserve to stay so high?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:57 pm to
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All of these teams have shown they can be easily beaten.

how have undefeated teams shown they can EASILY be beaten?

vandy has had a bunch of close games on their path to being undefeated. they've shown they can EASILY be beaten a lot more than teams who have rolled their competition
Posted by martiansgohome
Maryland
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:02 pm to
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vandy has had a bunch of close games on their path to being undefeated. they've shown they can EASILY be beaten a lot more than teams who have rolled their competition


Texas: played nobody, yet their O line and secondary have problems
Texas Tech: played nobody
BYU: I stated I don't know much about these guys.

I am not saying Vandy should be #1, only that dismissing them because they are Vandy is dumb.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:05 pm to
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vandy has had a bunch of close games on their path to being undefeated


You mean like LSU last year? Undefeated is undefeated. BYU is up there.

Vandy schedule > BYU schedule.
Posted by mental
Member since Jan 2008
94 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:05 pm to
WTF???? USC passes up BYU??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:09 pm to
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Vandy schedule > BYU schedule.

slightly, but not by much

and other than washington, BYU has been MURDERING their schedule

they beat the living dogshit out of a BCS team. vandy is squeaking by their opponents (8.6 average MOV)
Posted by Longdriver98
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:11 pm to
I am surprised that Georgia Tech is not ranked in either poll
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:15 pm to
I think what he was trying to point out is at the start of the year #1 Georgia was jumped in the polls
for close games that they were supposed to win by larger margins.

I don't think any LSU fans have a problem where we are ranked in the polls, if we beat the teams we play we will move up, simple as that.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:17 pm to
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and other than washington, BYU has been MURDERING their schedule


Then why is Alabama ranked so high? I wouldn't call what they have been doing as "murdering" their schedule.

This is obviouly a case of name recognition combined with messed up preseason polls. (although I don't remember Alabama even being ranked preseason.)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:19 pm to
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I wouldn't call what they have been doing as "murdering" their schedule.

they murdered UGA to start the game and then went on cruise control
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:29 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/15/12 at 6:19 pm
Posted by LSU Tiger 216
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
4026 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:32 pm to
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This is obviouly a case of name recognition combined with messed up preseason polls. (although I don't remember Alabama even being ranked preseason.)


Yeah, Alabama jumped from 24 to 2 in like 3 weeks
Posted by LSU Tiger 216
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
4026 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:33 pm to
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they murdered UGA to start the game and then went on cruise control


You may be right, but I think that they don't have much depth
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:35 pm to
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they murdered UGA to start the game and then went on cruise control


The #2 team in the nation doesn't go on "cruise control". If anything, they murder their opponents. Just like BYU, Texas Tech , Oklahoma, and Texas.

Either A)Bama and LSU are overrated or B)BYU and Vandy are underrated in this poll.

If all you want to say is Bama was good for 1 half of 1 game, then that really isn't much of a leg for them to stand on.

Posted by martiansgohome
Maryland
Member since Feb 2004
4650 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:37 pm to
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vandy has had a bunch of close games on their path to being undefeated.


Why is this a badge of honor for Ohio State (2002) and LSU (2007), yet a sign of weakness for Vanderbilt?
This post was edited on 10/5/08 at 1:38 pm
Posted by tigerjuice
Gramercy
Member since Jan 2004
4849 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:43 pm to
Mizz will lose to Oklahoma so it doesn't matter.
Posted by martiansgohome
Maryland
Member since Feb 2004
4650 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Mizz will lose to Oklahoma so it doesn't matter.


agreed
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 10:39 am
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