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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:21 pm to The Mick
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HEY frickFACE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT A FORCE IS AND HOW IT WORKS.
There's always that one guy.....
(Not you)
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:21 pm to The Mick
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:22 pm to yaherrdme
I'm sorry man, my bad.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:24 pm to The Mick
My question is how did the runner at first never tag up, when the runner at second was able to tag from 2nd and make it ALL the way home?? Sounds to me like the runner at first passed the runner at second tagging. Thus making it an automatic out ending the inning. Case closed. Go back to the field and start extra innings.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:30 pm to tiger nutz
I don't claim perfect recall but did ump for 9 years. I scrolled down and here is what I think is the best reasoning:
"That is not a "force".. the base runner messed up and left a base.. a "force" is when the base runner has to leave the base... since there was no force, the run counts."
the base runner at first was NOT forced to second because the ball was caught in the air. Contrast with a runner at first who, say, didn't run on a ground ball, watches a play at home, starts to celebrate and is thrown out at second. That would be a force out and the runner crossing home first would not matter. So, in your scenario, you have a time play and the run counts.
"That is not a "force".. the base runner messed up and left a base.. a "force" is when the base runner has to leave the base... since there was no force, the run counts."
the base runner at first was NOT forced to second because the ball was caught in the air. Contrast with a runner at first who, say, didn't run on a ground ball, watches a play at home, starts to celebrate and is thrown out at second. That would be a force out and the runner crossing home first would not matter. So, in your scenario, you have a time play and the run counts.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:21 pm to tiger nutz
Favorite Umpire heckles:
I've seen better eyes on a stove!
I thought only horses slept standing up!
Check your cell phone, You got 3 missed calls!
Favorite Player heckle:
I've seen better hands on a snake!
I've seen better eyes on a stove!
I thought only horses slept standing up!
Check your cell phone, You got 3 missed calls!
Favorite Player heckle:
I've seen better hands on a snake!
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:39 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Agree.. Run counts... 
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:11 pm to tiger nutz
There is a different scenario I have seen where the run would not count.
Two outs, runner on second base. Batter hit a gapper to right-center field and runner scores easily. Knowing the runner was going to score, and knowing it is a walk-off, the batter runs half-way to first base and the retreats towards home to start celebrating with the runner when he crosses home plate. Long after runner crosses home plate the right fielder throws the ball to first base to record the force out. Run doesn't count. Third out of the inning.
Two outs, runner on second base. Batter hit a gapper to right-center field and runner scores easily. Knowing the runner was going to score, and knowing it is a walk-off, the batter runs half-way to first base and the retreats towards home to start celebrating with the runner when he crosses home plate. Long after runner crosses home plate the right fielder throws the ball to first base to record the force out. Run doesn't count. Third out of the inning.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:39 pm to Yewkindewit
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Check your cell phone, You got 3 missed calls!
I will have to remember this one!
quote:
Any umpires on the Rant.........
Yes, umpires, refs, coaches, owners, pundits, people with no life, and many opinionated assholes! This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:08 am to tiger nutz
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Any umpires on the Rant
We got a lot of those and we have a lot of coaches on here as well
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