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Andy Cannizaro and Bat Speed

Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:33 am
Posted by tigerpawl
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:33 am
Is it just me or is there a noticeable difference this year in bat speed? Of note: Chinea

It also appears they are more patient and waiting on the ball a little longer.

Is there a Cannizaro connection?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77510 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:34 am to
How would we know, seems like we were never informed on exit speed's of balls off of bats before this year.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4747 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:36 am to
Hmmmmmmm.....soooooo are you asking if there is a direct correlation between hitting and the hitting coach? I'm not sure. Someone with more expertise will have to come along and answer such a complex question.
Posted by Geaux23
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Posted on 5/10/15 at 11:44 am to
Hilarious
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9804 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 12:19 pm to
Its difficult to "teach" bat speed. Much of it has to do with the players physical attributes at the core and legs.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60388 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 12:23 pm to
There are programs with heavy/light bats that absolutely improve bat speed.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77510 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 12:32 pm to
I definitely do no remember any players in the on deck circles swinging sledge hammers.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9804 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

There are programs with heavy/light bats that absolutely improve bat speed.

Probably, but you're taking what is already present and making incremental improvements. Same as with a sprinter. You can take someone already physically disposed to be fast and improve technique and training and in fact increase their speed. But you're not going to "teach" speed if its not already present.

When I said its difficult to teach bat speed I was not suggesting it can't be improved.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

It also appears they are more patient and waiting on the ball a little longer.


I think this is the opposite. We are aggressive at the plate and not getting behind in counts
This post was edited on 5/10/15 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4747 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Its difficult to "teach" bat speed. Much of it has to do with the players physical attributes at the core and legs.


Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but this is 100% inaccurate. Bat path, hand path, barrel turn, lower half, and pre contact extension, just to name a few, are all teachable, are all things that every hitting coach focuses on, and all affect bat speed a ton. However, while bat speed is great and all, a guy with 10 mph slower bat speed, but with better attack angles and bat angles will hit the ball further 9 out of 10 times.
Posted by tigerbait1.6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/10/15 at 1:34 pm to
FireJavi.
Oh wait....
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/10/15 at 1:44 pm to
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this is 100% inaccurate

I hate trying to speak for someone else but i don't think Jay denying there are techniques available to increase bat speed. I think he was saying there has to be a predisposition to speed already present.

I'm slow. Wasn't always the case but it clearly is today. I can probably run 100 meters in about 15 seconds. Have the best speed coaches in the country work with me for a year and maybe I will cut that time to 14.5 seconds. I didn't acquire speed and they didn't teach me speed. Their tecniques can improve but its difficult to create what is not there. I think that is what Jay was saying and I aologize to him for assuming to know his mind.

Posted by 82fumanchu
Saskatchewan
Member since Jan 2014
1969 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 1:55 pm to
I think he meant waiting on each pitch a little longer before deciding to take a hack. Hence improved bat speed would allow this.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9804 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

but its difficult to create what is not there

Create, or a similar word, is what I should have used instead of teach. Teach was the wrong word to use. Of course any technique can be taught including techniques designed to improve bat speed. My inability to precisely define my point caused confusion.

Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7674 posts
Posted on 5/10/15 at 2:04 pm to
he did it w/ javi's players!
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