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re: All these hypes on Jennings was great, but do you still remember 08 Chick Bowl?
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:51 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:51 am to SammyTiger
That's right, JJ took over for Lee. I'll go back and edit. Lee started MSU game, 4th game. 38-12
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 12:55 am
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:55 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
I think Lee got an ankle injury and we replaced him with JJ.
I think AJ is head and shoulders above JJ though. From what I've seen. He seems to read the defense better and he has an internal clock to get rid of the ball or run.
JJ's best asset was his wheels. He held onto the ball way too long, he'd drop too far back, he'd wait and wait and wait for some play to unfold and it took him too long to deliver the ball.
I'm not going to rip on him, he was a Tiger and I'm over that other stuff.
I think AJ is head and shoulders above JJ though. From what I've seen. He seems to read the defense better and he has an internal clock to get rid of the ball or run.
JJ's best asset was his wheels. He held onto the ball way too long, he'd drop too far back, he'd wait and wait and wait for some play to unfold and it took him too long to deliver the ball.
I'm not going to rip on him, he was a Tiger and I'm over that other stuff.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:59 am to la_birdman
You look at the OC's (Crowton, a sick Krag and Stud) and then look at Cameron. It's just a whole different universe man.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:01 am to VesperiaLSU
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He and JJ just happen to have this same trait so I try to underline their similarity.
why not compare him to Flynn or Mauck, they were dual threats as well.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:04 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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You look at the OC's (Crowton, a sick Krag and Stud) and then look at Cameron. It's just a whole different universe man.
Oh I completely agree with you! Without a doubt.
You make an excellent point!
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:08 am to ATLTiger
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why not compare him to Flynn or Mauck, they were dual threats as well.
Uh no. Tebow was a dual threat, Cam Newton was a dual threat, Manziel is a dual threat, or was.
They could scramble but not "run." Not bashing them at all though.
Their biggest attribute was what's between their ears. They were great at reading the defense and making check downs.
Both are on my list of fav. QBs.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:13 am to VesperiaLSU
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Where JJ was still a true freshman and lit the defense on fire in the GA Tech Game, and people were starting to compare him to Jamarcus Russell with all the sky high expectations...and we all knew how the story of JJ ended up with.
I am not trying to compare Anthony Jennings to JJ (cause in my deep heart, I know Jennings is way better) and I am excited about his future being our QB as much as anyone in here. But ever since the whole JJ drama, I cannot help but tend to take a precautionary approach on raising my expectation of a freshman dual-threat QB before I get to watch him play extensively and how he reacts under pressure (which Jennings kinda already proved). It's all likely that Jennings will come out ready to show the world that he is our future QB and life will be great. But what if he doesn't? What if he drops the ball big time in this bowl game? How many of you would freak out and start calling for the backups and how many of you would keep faith in him? What will be your thoughts on him then?
How about letting us do what every other fanbase does and get highly excited for a promising future player. Do you remember Mett's first year? I'd say JJ did a hell of a lot better than he did. Why must we use JJ but not the infamous "Mettsiah". JJ was the #2 red zone QB in America and Mett was one of the worst. Mett had the same problem JJ had. Overthrowing his receivers, staring down his receivers, no touch on his passes, and sack machine.
You know why their next years turned out different, Mett got real coaching and JJ had Crowton who has developed one QB the entirety of his career. Jennings gets Cam from the start, and will continue to have him. Jennings is a playbook junkie and film room obsessive. Dude is already more capable and better taught than both Lee and JJ.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:25 am to VesperiaLSU
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Yes, but he was a true freshman and starting for the first game by then, and the potential he showed in that game is hard to be overlooked and not get pumped. And how did it end up?
You dumbass, JJ played a good bit in the last four games of his true fresh season started the last 2 and his stats were poor.
Troy -- 1/6 5 yards, 7 car 17 yards 1 TD
Ole Miss -- 10/20 129 yards 1 TD 1 INT, 10 car 23 yards
Arkansas -- 9/21 143 yards 2 TDs, 19 car 50 yards (decent)
GT -- 16/25 142 yards 1 TD, 10 car 25 yards
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:28 am to VesperiaLSU
Don't have hope, guys.
Be miserable.
Be miserable.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:28 am to VesperiaLSU
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But what if he doesn't? What if he drops the ball big time in this bowl game?
Then I'll kill myself. I'll sit in a pile of my own feces, fap, and strangle myself with a brown leather belt.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:31 am to la_birdman
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Tebow was a dual threat, Cam Newton was a dual threat, Manziel is a dual threat, or was.
they're like top of the line dual threats. you don't have to put up 20 rushing TDs or 1000 yds rushing to be a dual threat.
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They could scramble but not "run."
of course they could run. the first time we saw Mauck in the 01 SECCG, pretty much all he could do was run. they had designed run plays for him after that, whether it was draws or options. less after the injury in 02, but Jimbo still ran him.
Flynn was prob a little less athletic than Mauck, but still had some option plays and could take off if a pass play broke down. his rushing tapered off a little after he got hurt vs SC in 07, but he still ran.
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Their biggest attribute was what's between their ears. They were great at reading the defense and making check downs.
the whole mental thing with both guys is overrated IMO. at least as it relates to efficiency. Mauck put up good numbers overall, but was turnover-prone vs good teams. Flynn struggled with accuracy. not the kinda thing you see from guys who were great at reading defenses and checking down.
their greatest attribute was steadiness. they made mistakes, but it never seemed to affect them (or in turn the team) too badly. even if they were off early, they tended to make plays late to pull games out.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:41 am to ATLTiger
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the whole mental thing with both guys is overrated IMO
I have to disagree with you here. Both won National Championships.
Not trying to start a big internet war but I have to respectfully disagree.
It's all good, there's no real right answer.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:50 am to VesperiaLSU
A few key differences:
1) Jennings has a better arm than Jefferson
2) Jennings is more agile and faster than Jefferson
3) Jennings can make better reads than Jefferson did
4) Jennings has a quarterback coach unlike Jefferson
5) Jennings has a win unlike Jefferson at the time
1) Jennings has a better arm than Jefferson
2) Jennings is more agile and faster than Jefferson
3) Jennings can make better reads than Jefferson did
4) Jennings has a quarterback coach unlike Jefferson
5) Jennings has a win unlike Jefferson at the time
Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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First game next year he throws a couple INT's, people will turn on him
Ok what if he doesn't, what if he's one of those rare QBs that can go through a season with 28-30 TDs to like 4-6 ints? McCarron did it. Bryce Petty did it this year and he had only thrown 14 passes his entire first two years. Actually, a bunch have done it recently. How about the scenario of him average 300 yards and 2.5 TDs to 1 turnover a game.
If he goes his first 5 games with 2 turnover but 12 TDs and 1500 total yards, why should we go crazy if he throws two against somebody? JJ didn't have one game where he threw 2 ints his whole sophomore year. If Jennings can be that protective, we are in good hands.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:05 am to lsutothetop
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1) Jennings has a better arm than Jefferson
2) Jennings is more agile and faster than Jefferson
3) Jennings can make better reads than Jefferson did
4) Jennings has a quarterback coach unlike Jefferson
5) Jennings has a win unlike Jefferson at the time
Add quicker release too. People use to always talk about Lee's quick release and pretty touch passes, and Jennings has the same thing. Mett and Jamarcus forced passes because of their strong arm, Jennings and Lee made touch passes and they can drop a pass perfect right between two defenders.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:16 am to VesperiaLSU
Jefferson had Lee backing him up. It was like both were shitty and they pushed each other to be mediocre qbs at best. Now we have Jennings wo is a good qb backed by rivers who has potential and then Harris coming in. They are all good quarterbacks that will push each other to be great.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 5:40 am to VesperiaLSU
JJ had crappy mechanics that never improved and never learned how to make quick reads
Jennings doesn't have crappy mechanics
time will tell if he grasps the mental aspects of it
Jennings doesn't have crappy mechanics
time will tell if he grasps the mental aspects of it
Posted on 12/5/13 at 5:47 am to Pilot Tiger
I hate that Mett doesn't get to play, but I do like that AJ gets 4 weeks of practice with the 1st team. I like that he will be the man and not back up mentality. I like that the coaches will get to see what he needs to work on between this game and spring practice.
I think that this is a huge positive no matter what happens.
I think that this is a huge positive no matter what happens.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 5:48 am
Posted on 12/5/13 at 5:49 am to Spellingmaster
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JJ was a running QB
I am not sure I ever considered him a QB- He was an athlete playing out of position-
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