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Alex Leatherwood...How in the world does Bama get guys like this to return?

Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:53 pm
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:53 pm
Dude was a can’t miss 5 star LT coming out of HS. Was the best LT in the SEC last year and Would have most likely been a 1st pick last year and has already won a ring and is a senior.

Meanwhile we can’t get guys like Charles to return who never put a full season of solid play on tape and could have def improved his draft stock coming back. Yet declared and didn’t get drafted until the 4th and is now not even on the active roster.

We are never going to be able to compete with them consistently if we cannot keep our own players. This year has been a complete shite show and hopefully doesn’t start a trend.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 10:37 pm
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by austiger
Austin
Member since Apr 2012
744 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:55 pm to
it's a good point... when you oversell the NFL as a benefit, you can't be surprised when they disproportionately leave early
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3110 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by GreyBear
Member since Nov 2017
664 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:57 pm to
Bama has a better "process" than LSU
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278417 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:58 pm to
What about Jedrick Wills?
Posted by Keaux10
Grand Isle
Member since Feb 2019
1757 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:00 pm to
As much $$$ as a rookie deal, then they stay
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94532 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:01 pm to
Because there's a culture of pride in playing for Alabama. Howd they get Devonta Smith to return instead of making a "business decision"?
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29139 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:05 pm to
the LSU process is to be legit title contenders about twice a decade. outback bowl level games sprinkled around with the occasional new years 6.
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2010
1809 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:07 pm to
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Because there's a culture of pride in playing for Alabama. Howd they get Devonta Smith to return instead of making a "business decision"?


Well Bama is able to sell that they are going to get them to the nfl but also are able to sell them on representing Alabama and finishing what was started.

Seems like our players could care less about LSU once they get here. They could give two shits about finishing what they started. They all about that money and getting the nfl whether they are projected 1st round picks or undrafted free agents.

We obviously get juniors to return but NEVER on the level of players like Leatherwood, Smith and Etienne.
Hell we can’t even get good draft eligible sophomores to return.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14468 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:10 pm to
Yeah I was Sold LSU would build the OLine/Dline to compete with Bama and top dogs on a yearly basis. O even said it. the game in the SEC is won in the trenches. Yet Our Oline/Dline has been Avg at best since O toke over. Yeah i'm including last years Oline. If you look at the Film Burrow made those guys look a whole lot better than they really were.
Posted by Tboy13
Member since Oct 2015
137 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:13 pm to
Bama has a better binder.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94532 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Well Bama is able to sell that they are going to get them to the nfl but also are able to sell them on representing Alabama and finishing what was started.


Yeah the culture of pride in playing for Alabama may be directly linked to the culture of winning. I guess an expectation that you're going to kick everybody's arse and win championships and its up to the next class to keep that going. They don't get everybody to return, there's plenty of early draft declarations but they always seem to have a few key players that decide to return when they're projected as early round picks.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14530 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Devonta Smith to return instead of making a "business decision"?


Smith is a bad example because he would have been a late 1st rounder at best if he left last year. This year, he's the first or second WR off the board. It also goes to show that coming back and improving your draft stock absolutely has merit.

LSU players that leave early to get their careers trying to get to that second contract while they still have their health.

Alabama players are setting themselves up with generational wealth with their signing bonuses alone.

Estimated signing bonus for #32 is $5.3 million.
Estimated signing bonus for 3rd round is $1 million.

Saahdiq Charles absolutely should have come back. That would have been the correct "business decision". His entire 4 year contract is worth about $4 million. If he came back and stayed healthy he could have made that $4 million from his signing bonus alone.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 2:29 pm
Posted by 2019goats
Member since Apr 2020
386 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:23 pm to
Bama can get these guys to return because they probably don’t oversell the NFL like we do. But also it coulda also just been because he was the 5th best OT last year at best and wanted to raise his draft stock potentially
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2010
1809 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

They don't get everybody to return, there's plenty of early draft declarations but they always seem to have a few key players that decide to return when they're projected as early round picks.


You’re right, the don’t get everyone to return. They do however or at least seems like get 1 or 2 guys to return that would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. I can’t name you the last time this happened at LSU. Claiborne maybe.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94532 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Smith is a bad example because he would have been a late 1st rounder at best if he left last year.


Smith is actually a perfect example. He was a first round pick who came back to improve his draft stock within the first round. I can't imagine any of our projected first round picks returning under those circumstances.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 2:26 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Well Bama is able to sell that they are going to get them to the nfl but also are able to sell them on representing Alabama and finishing what was started.


So why were they not able to sell Tua, Ruggs, Jeudy, Willis and McDaniel? All “didn’t finish what they started" last year?
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Smith is actually a perfect example. He was a first round pick who came back to improve his draft stock within the first round


No way was he a first rounder last year. He was 3rd at best from Alabama and last years draft was loaded at WR
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2010
1809 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

But also it coulda also just been because he was the 5th best OT last year at best and wanted to raise his draft stock potentially


This just isn’t true. He’s better than both Thomas and Willis who both went in the top 15. He was 100% a top 3 tackle had he declared last year. Regardless, he would have still been a 1st round pick and has already won a ring, why come back?
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