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re: After re-watching the game here is whats wrong with the O-Line
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:13 am to la_birdman
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:13 am to la_birdman
quote:I'll see your Grimes and raise it to Canada.
Grimes
LSU was #1 and #3 in ypp last 2 years. Links from another thread
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:18 am to Mayhawman
That is true but it's not a wide margin. 6.7 ypp in both 2015/16 and this year it's 6.3 ypp. It's a small sample and we haven't faced the better teams yet but with this oline I was surprised to see our Ypp so high.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:24 am to Delmore1951
With so many struggles on the OL, I have wondered why we haven't seen more of Cushenberry and Deculus.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:36 am to nicksaur3
You.never.give.up.the.middle.
It's basically the golden rule of being an offensive lineman
It's basically the golden rule of being an offensive lineman
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:38 am to nicksaur3
Stop motioning the linemen! It's not working
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:39 am to Madking
quote:Here lies the problem of the 2017 ypp.
It's a small sample and we haven't faced the better teams
Even the team thought to have tough D was fools gold.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:02 am to Mayhawman
Maybe I should contact the administrators.
This thread is factual, reasonable, has observations that reflect knowledge of football and has no snark or unreasonable lack of civility.
What's up ?
This thread is factual, reasonable, has observations that reflect knowledge of football and has no snark or unreasonable lack of civility.
What's up ?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:05 am to Ace Midnight
Ace-great analysis. Feels like a very educated analysis. What would say about missed assignments/getting beat at the line on running plays? Our issues with the OL extend beyond pass blocking.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:06 am to ArmUndHasslich
Bama has our O-line.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:08 am to TigerSpray
I wish Todd McClure was coaching these boys. Plus he is just a good ole boy who would kill it on recruiting trail. He has young kids so doesn't want to be away and don't blame him. Plus he loves raising bulls and selling antique wood.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:22 am to nicksaur3
Very insightful analysis. The line has been in a state of flux since fall camp opened with defections and injuries. Its always difficult to get true freshman to play consistently in the offensive line. Hopefully a couple more games will get them to see the game better and make the correct adjustments. This team could look vastly different in a few weeks if the line can develop into a more cohesive unit.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:32 am to ArmUndHasslich
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What would say about missed assignments/getting beat at the line on running plays?
I don't recall what McClure said specifically about the run blocking, other than just missed assignments - like on one play both players got to the second level, leaving the outside linebacker free to come in and make the TFL. Similar to the pass blocking issue - but I think we are run blocking better than pass blocking, relatively speaking, although our yards per carry, overall, are down this year.
I think it's a matter of balance and coaching. We're too aggressive in pass blocking and not aggressive enough in run blocking. If the assignment issues are cleaned up - and I think this can be done by SEC play, the offense is going to look a lot better. I think we had fewer breakdowns in individual technique (hand placement, leverage, etc.) versus Cuse than MSU - but Cuse is not as good in the trenches as MSU, so that may be misleading.
It is Oline assignment - again, what Clapp at C was supposed to mitigate - that appears to need the most work at this time. Getting all 5 down lineman on the same page for the play should be priority #1.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:43 am to Ace Midnight
Any word on Deculus? Is he just too inexperienced to get some time?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:45 am to nicksaur3
We don't have a SEC caliber LT to offset speed rush of DE's in this conference.
I'm all for moving Clapp back to LG and Brumfield over to RG with Cush at C, give that a look.
I'm all for moving Clapp back to LG and Brumfield over to RG with Cush at C, give that a look.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:07 pm to Ace Midnight
A lot of it is play calling too. One 3rd and 1 in our own territory we went to a goal line formation where we were absolutely running the ball and were tackled for loss because Syracuse had everyone in the box. Miss. St. had the perfect call when we sold out and stacked the box and threw over the top. We showed no signs of anyone to throw to. Mike Leach would have gone 5-wide and spread everybody out and would have found the way to run the ball for 5 yards, but we ran into a wall. The play calling has been garbage to go with really poor line play.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:39 pm to nicksaur3
quote:
Ingram really struggles picking up blitz's and gives up free shots on the QB
Well Troy blitzes a frick ton, so that's not good.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:45 pm to TigerBite
quote:
A lot of it is play calling too.
I don't disagree with that. We were effective enough against BYU, with a very limited selection of plays. We were told, "10% of the call sheet was used" in that game. Fine. We need to see more of it now.
Like ASAP.
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