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re: A Memo to Coach Les Miles - an appeal to show CHARACTER
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:04 am to lake chuck fan
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:04 am to lake chuck fan
quote:If you truly believe this, then you are not rantarded....simply REtarded.
I believe it represents the majority of the fan base's opinion.
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Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:05 am to therocketscientist
quote:
You are missing what most are referring to
And you are missing the fricking point. Miles gets PAID to coach football. You get paid to do whatever you do. If Miles didnt play Lee it is obvious he thought that Lee would have been worse the JJ. If you want to bitch about the gameplan, fine, but stop with this "Not playing Lee is bad character" horse shite.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:06 am to therocketscientist
quote:Miles had the strategery all set.
exagerative fashion
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:07 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
Miles didn't believe Lee could help him win any of the final games.
lee would basically have to be the worst QB in history t not be able to at least run with JJ the final 2 games
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:07 am to lsuhunt555
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And you are missing the fricking point. Miles gets PAID to coach football. You get paid to do whatever you do. If Miles didnt play Lee it is obvious he thought that Lee would have been worse the JJ. If you want to bitch about the gameplan, fine, but stop with this "Not playing Lee is bad character" horse shite.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:08 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:/thread
You want the story of Jarett Lee!? Miles didn't believe Lee could help him win any of the final games. Point. Blank. fricking period. Its not some personal vendetta. Playing time is not owed to anyone. It's as simple as the coaches didn't believe Lee could help beat either UGA or Bama. Miles is showing Character by not saying that.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:08 am to Deep Fried
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It amazes me the lack on insight from people. It isn't about the game, but about common decency in how one treats someone else.
This isnt the fricking Red Cross. Its a god damn football game! The point is to do whatever necessary to WIN! Not to make everyone feel good.
If you want to award trophies for 9th place, be my guest, but I wouldnt want you around my football team.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:09 am to wheelz007
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Posted by wheelz007 on 1/11 at 8:50 am to therocketscientist WOW!!! Dude lost 1 game. Beat errybody else: Oregon, West Virginia... Beat Alabama at their place. Beat Arkansas. Monkey Stomped the Gators and the barn. Damn that one was FUN too!!! Won the SEC Championship.... Post Reply • Back to Top
Fify and this...
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:09 am to GeauxTigerTM
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That, and his subsequent decision on determining playing time for his QB's (and every other position that no one seems to get their panties bunched up about) can be critiqued in terms of it's effectiveness if you want...but to call it a character issues screams butthurt soccer mom who complains about her son's lack of PT.
Its really pretty simple and takes nobody with an indepth knowledge of football to understand. When JL was at the position, the Off. functioned. When JJ was the only qb, it didnt. JL was treated grossly unfairly, which... understanding sports, I could overlook. Not that it wasnt all of the sudden "right", but at 13-0, CLM didnt deserve to be second guessed. But come on, after the debacle we watched, the nation watched, it really brought the whole issue back in the spot light. How, could anyone not give JL a shot??? I will never believe CLM thought he could do worse than what we were watching. No possible way. Not the same guy that coached us to 13-0...
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:09 am to therocketscientist
A simply apology to fans for the team being unprepared in all phases will suffice
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:10 am to therocketscientist
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I am saying Miles refused to play Lee even in the most obvious cases where he should have, such as in the 2nd half of the UGA game and the second half of the BCSNCG.
Obvious to those who were screaming for Lee all along. While I'd have been perfectly happy to have him insert Lee for no other reason in the BCSNCG than it might have meant they'd have actually called a forward pass, to say it was "obvious" that he should have played him is silly. It's obvious some wanted to, but there was nothing obvious that a change was warranted or would have been effective.
Regardless of how you want to couch it, that's simply NOT a character issue...it's a coaching decision issue until we would hear it was something else entirely. To call it a character issue all but suggests it was a personal decision based on something other than football...and unless you have some evidence for that, it just comes off like an upset parent.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:12 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Regardless of how you want to couch it, that's simply NOT a character issue...it's a coaching decision issue until we would hear it was something else entirely. To call it a character issue all but suggests it was a personal decision based on something other than football...and unless you have some evidence for that, it just comes off like an upset parent.
Finally someone rational.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:the same coaching staff that has seen him the past 3 years didnt believe he was the best choice. If not for the suspension, he doesn't see the field for a meaningful snap this season. The coaches did not believe he could help them win the past 2 games. Could they have been wrong? Sure. But i trust their opinion over the expert opinion of the rant, who's collective football IQ probably doesn't equal to the football IQ Miles shits out in the morning.
lee would basically have to be the worst QB in history t not be able to at least run with JJ the final 2 games
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:14 am to Deep Fried
quote:~ AMEN to that!! there's no common decency because people think they need to "taunt", which indeed is a form of bullying. We're all supposed to be adults, yet I witness things like GDIAF, GKY, ..this is the RANT yes..meaning general fodder between fans. Not fans bashing others. Adulthood seems to have gone out the window, and I for one am appalled at the things I've witnessed..and just so ya know..the people that think they are "decent" folks will go after the statement I just made, showing that they indeed lack character.
It isn't about the game, but about common decency in how one treats someone else
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:14 am to therocketscientist
And what if it's a matter of character that he NOT discuss it?
He doesn't owe us an explanation. He owes us results. He owes allegiance to his team. But he doesn't have to tell us squat about why he does what he does with particular players.
Do you honestly believe there were no reasons for the Lee situation? Or that in a situation where a title rides on it and millions of dollars for him personally, that he just had a grudge or a love affair with JJ? Grow up. Get over it.
We lost.
If Lee is taking the high road that's good enough for him and it should be good enough for you, because there's a possibility that we really don't want to know what the real deal was.
He doesn't owe us an explanation. He owes us results. He owes allegiance to his team. But he doesn't have to tell us squat about why he does what he does with particular players.
Do you honestly believe there were no reasons for the Lee situation? Or that in a situation where a title rides on it and millions of dollars for him personally, that he just had a grudge or a love affair with JJ? Grow up. Get over it.
We lost.
If Lee is taking the high road that's good enough for him and it should be good enough for you, because there's a possibility that we really don't want to know what the real deal was.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:16 am to GeauxTigerTM
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To call it a character issue all but suggests it was a personal decision based on something other than football
I want him to retain his character with the fan base, and based on the most talked about decision maybe in recent LSU football, it appears that a large number of people feel there is something other than a football decision involved. The appeal is to clear that up in order for him to avert questions about his central theme of character.
This post was edited on 1/11/12 at 9:18 am
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:17 am to therocketscientist
Well said, Sir! You can add me to the list of those saying the same thing, which you say so well.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:17 am to GeauxTigerTM
Let me ask you this GEauxTigerTM, certainly like myself I would assume you are not a coach but reading your posts overall, I believe you have very sufficient knowledge of sports and football in particular and forget character issues, and remember QB unfortunately is always the most important postion on a football team (like it or not , it can have the most impact on a team ala Cam Newton at Auburn last year). After what you were viewing Monday night, again I know you are not Miles, Im just asking if you were the HC in this hypothetical, somewheres in the early 3rd quater would you have kept going with Jefferson or would you have tried something else , be it Lee, Mett , try Spencer Ware or Shep in the Wildcat. Just anything from your arsenal of weapons just to see if something might work? Thanks.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:17 am to faxis
quote:if Les comes out and says we didn't play Lee because we felt as if Lee wasn't good enough to win a big game, or wasn't as good as JJ, guys like TigrLEE, Rudy40, Geaux2002, and the OP would probably blow their fricking brains out.
If Lee is taking the high road that's good enough for him and it should be good enough for you, because there's a possibility that we really don't want to know what the real deal was.
Posted on 1/11/12 at 9:17 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
You want the story of Jarett Lee!? Miles didn't believe Lee could help him win any of the final games. Point. Blank. fricking period.
And that was his mistake.
We won DESPITE Jefferson's TWENTY-FIVE total yards against Georgia. And then turned around and lost BECAUSE of Jefferson not being able to move the ball against BAMA. The defense did what it could. The offense lost. You can't get worse than ZERO.
Miles was wrong about Jefferson. Period. End of Discussion.
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