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re: A little historical perspective to those criticizing taking the bunt off

Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:35 pm to
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If this is the case, you must think ALL coaches can never be wrong? At every level. That all coaches know their players better than fans so every decision is without fault?

A coach could never make a stupid decision, just ask this guy:



Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:35 pm to
No, coaches can be wrong, but they know their players and Mamieri saw that it was hard to get the bunt down and that Jordan was capable of delivering a clutch hit. Yes, coaches can be wrong, but according to many on this site, Manieri is seldom right.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:36 pm to
Have you forgotten that Bryce was going to bunt in the AB? That PM didn't trust him at that point to get a hit? But he does when KRob's at 2B. Tell me, why change your mind. If you are will to sacrifice an out with a runner at 1b, then it stands to reason you would sacrifice one with one at 2b. Why not let him swing with KRob at 1st then? Best case you score on a double. Or get 1st and 3rd or 1st and 2nd and you can leave Dawson in to bunt. Right? My point is, if you gamble with Bryce getting a hit with the runner at 2nd, why not a runner at 1b?
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 9:39 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:37 pm to
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they know their players and Mamieri saw that it was hard to get the bunt down
what?
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that Jordan was capable of delivering a clutch hit.
See my last post. Then why attempt to bunt him at all? Or did you forget that PM tried to do it originally?
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:38 pm to
I was looking at two runners on base and Cresse was in a slump at the time and I was curious and asked Skip at an autograph signing and he gave me his answer. Chill out man.
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:40 pm to
Fine, but he also told me to my face. He probably said both. We have two different versions. Fine, but leave the name calling off if the discussion.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:43 pm to
Because u can hit into a double play when he is at first
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:43 pm to
Sorry, dad
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:44 pm to
Cresse never bunted in his career. He wasn't bunting then, with those bats, in a TIE game where even if you don't come through that inning, you are guaranteed more opportunities. Period. That's why he didn't bunt. Not because Skip didn't think Cedric Harris (ETA: It was Barbier), who already had a hit and RBI that game, wasn't going to come through!
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 9:49 pm
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:45 pm to
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Not because Skip didn't think Cedric Harris, who already had a hit that game, wasn't going to come through!

Harris had 10 broken fingers. He probably wasn't coming through there.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:45 pm to
I know the reasons. It's a dumb call to not bunt with someone on 1B. And it's almost as dumb to change your mind mid AB because a runner got to 2nd, especially knowing you plant to hit Wofford next... a freshman. At least you give him a better shot with a runner on 3B. Less pressure
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:46 pm to
Good lord, you are messed up to call him a liar. I know what I heard. Some of you all can't be civil. I trust Skip over what I see sometime on this board.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:47 pm to
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Harris had 10 broken fingers. He probably wasn't coming through there.
It was actually Barbier. Looked at the wrong box. Barbier had a hit and RBI that day too.

And if Barbier didn't come through, you had Pontiff...
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 9:51 pm
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:51 pm to
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Good lord, you are messed up to call him a liar. I know what I heard. Some of you all can't be civil. I trust Skip over what I see sometime on this board.

Cresse wasn't bunting, dude. The thought never crossed Skip's mind.
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1165 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:51 pm to
I understand that coaches make Dumb decisions and that is the case in Super Bowl 49. I think you and I can make dumb decisions too. Anyone can. I just think that coach and Manieri have made a lot more correct decisions.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164115 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:52 pm to
Then if this OP story is true Skip didn't remember his lineup because I'd trust Barbier, your Senior captain who had a homerun in his last at bat, to get the ball out of the infield there.
Posted by Chaseff
Lafayette
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:53 pm to
I know that the thought never crossed his mind for the reasons he told me. I was curious and asked him.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:54 pm to
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Barbier, your Senior captain who had a homerun in his last at bat


This was probably after the Witten HR actually. But IDGAF.


This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:55 pm to
Skip never had a bunt signal.

True story.
Posted by Flamefighter
Center Field
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:57 pm to
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You had one of Your top RBI guys at the plate looking at a hitter's count. Hindsight is 20/20. CPM let the kid swing. Nothing wrong with that.

1-0. It happens in baseball.



How many times can I up vote this?!
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