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re: 6/19 Looks Pretty Bad

Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:00 am to
Posted by dpbsaints
Member since Jan 2014
16 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:00 am to
6/19 translates into 16-50 which gets us beat worse. we don't throw because we can't. harris is part of the problem not the solution. he has a lot of upside but has not done much more than throw ball up deep and let athletes go get it.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:16 am to
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we don't throw because we can't. harris is part of the problem not the solution. he has a lot of upside but has not done much more than throw ball up deep and let athletes go get it.


This guy has actually watched the games this season. While Harris has thrown some amazing deep balls, jump balls thrown down field and late passes behind the receiver have been more common. To add to this we also don't have the defensive depth to take those chances. Henry showed that this past weekend when he ran as he pleased in the second half.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:19 am to
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But 30/50 would be beautiful. Let the kid throw the ball.


Yeah, let's take the ball out of our best players hands. Smart move??

Teams that can run win most of the time. Teams that throw 50 times usually lose.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:31 am to
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This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 10:40 am
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:49 am to
LSU needed a quick strike offense to get the ball out of harris' hands and neutralize the defense...causing them to back off.

however les/cam had no answer and alabama kept coming
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:56 am to
What few plays they did call Harris couldn't hit the receiver at 5-10 yards. He's struggled with this all year and thats the reason we throw deep the majority of the time. They are trying to avoid turnovers by playing to his throwing strengths and running the ball with the best back in the country.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39667 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:07 am to
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Harris is too good to throw less than 30 times a game.


Clearly not. He was 6 of 19! Extrapolating, he would have been 10 of 30 with probably two interceptions. He's only in his second year.

The 2014 season was ruined by poor dline recruiting in 2011, as well as poor QB recruiting. The 2015 season is being ruined by poor recruiting of QBs and DL in 2011/12. The 2016 season is in jeapordy from poor LB recruiting in 2013/14.

Our problem is recruiting - not the overall talent level, but the just-in-time strategy.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68930 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:11 am to
There were more pass plays called than run plays. Bamas offense worked us and dominated top. LSU couldn't do anything, no matter what they tried. People saying we just lined up in the I and ran it don't watch the games.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:11 am to
Les = run! Get over it.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27723 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:17 am to
pick six mcgee...aka Jarrett Lee
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25949 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:18 am to
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Harris is too good to throw less than 30 times a game.

No, he isn't. He missed easy throws, made bad reads, and held on to the ball too long when we did throw.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:21 am to
6/19 is pretty bad.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:32 am to
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6/19 Looks Pretty Bad
quote:

But 30/50 would be beautiful.
You suck at math. If we're completing 60%, I'd much rather go 12/19 than 30/50. Sets us up far better with our run game and moves the chains.

Posted by Al Dente
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2014
156 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:57 am to
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Don't be a smart arse, I do know football and have worked with Coaches and coached for 20 years so carry your edited stupidness somewhere else kid.


I wish my coaches would've made stupid, aimless arguments over message boards. Only real role models do that.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:33 am to
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LSU needed a quick strike offense to get the ball out of harris' hands and neutralize the defense...causing them to back off.

however les/cam had no answer and alabama kept coming
Harris was not having a good night.

Perhaps you didn't notice but he was 6/19. Some would say that looks pretty bad.

This quick strike offense you ambiguously suggest as a panacea, would that include short passes to Fournette or Moreau?

Harris has talent, but he is young, inexperienced, and he was off against Bama.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:02 am to
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and he was off against Bama.


no doubt.
saban doesn't have any respect for harris throwing the ball.
Posted by TigerBrewdaddy
Shreveport LA
Member since Oct 2010
584 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:49 am to
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But 30/50 would be beautiful. Let the kid throw the ball.

I love Miles, but there's too much "run blocker" in him.

When we spread the field against Florida and Harris was in shot gun, i had a moment...it was a good moment! Thinking it was a glimpse of what was to come against Bama.

Is it stubbornness, pride, what is it that keeps a coach from changing a bad system/scheme when needed? Are there other coaches behind the scene in his ear.

Saban knows him too well and Bileima will try the same thing. (Won't work this year), but he will try.

Harris is too good to throw less than 30 times a game.



We last touched the ball with 9:18 left in the game. Probably enough time for 2-3 possessions. Being down 2 scores, had we been able to stop them and get the ball back, Brandon probably would have thrown 30 times, IMO.

Assuming of course we didn't go three and out each possession.

Posted by ginms
Ridgeland Ms
Member since Aug 2007
1885 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:46 pm to
We do not have a quarterback for this level of football.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:05 pm to
That Int after the half pretty much changed the game. We needed 7 badly on that series and instead game them 7. We lost the game right there.
Posted by Hoovertigah
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2013
3054 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:50 pm to
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Yeah, let's take the ball out of our best players hands. Smart move??


That wasn't suggested.

When Leach was at Texas Tech, he was asked "why don't you run a more balanced offense"? He said, "it is very balanced, we throw the ball to 8 receivers, 2 tight ends, and 4 running backs. That's very balanced"!

I'm not suggesting 50 times every game...I was suggesting it against the Crimson Curtain in Tuscaloosa.
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