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2nd and 3rd place votes as well as omissions, could decide Heisman

Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:21 pm
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:21 pm
Last really close Heisman vote was 2009 when Mark Ingram edged out Toby Gerhart by just 28 votes. Ingram had 227 1st place votes while Gerhart was close behind at 222. So only 5 of Ingram's winning margin of 28 were due to first place votes.

In fact, Ingram and Gerhart combined to receive 449 1st place votes, while six other players combined to win exactly the same amount - 449.

If the vote turns out to be as close as many expect, the decision may be left in the hands of voters who omit Nix or Daniels from their ballots. Since they are required to list their 1st, 2nd and 3rd choices on their ballots (ballots are voided if 3 players are not listed), it could come down to how many omit one or the other entirely.

Three points for 1st, 2 points for 2nd, 1 point for 3rd. In a tight battle, the guy with the most first place votes could theoretically not win the Heisman, as almost happened in 2009.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 11:23 pm
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
2311 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:24 pm to
Too drunk for math right now
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28405 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:28 pm to
West Coast voters:
Nix/Penix/Daniels
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27834 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:31 pm to
A lot of the elitists in the Midwest and East coast will have the same as well due to the conference being down and SEC fatigue in general.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:37 pm to
Harrison, Jr., will get 3rd place votes in the Midwest and Northeast. Maye will get 3rd place votes in the Mid-Atlantic region. The question will be, which of Nix, Daniels and Penix will be left off those ballots.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71734 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:38 pm to
Anyone who votes for Drake Maye should lose their vote
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31014 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:41 pm to
quote:

Too drunk for math right now



Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40540 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:54 pm to
My ballot is

Daniels/Nabers/BTJ
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:02 am to
He won't get any 1st place votes, even from the 145 media voters in the Mid-Atlantic (ACC) region; but 3rd pace votes are oftentimes treated as "throwaway" symbolic votes in Heisman voting. Maye and Jordan Travis were the only two guys likely to get some 3rds from that region, but with Travis' injury, Maye will be the beneficiary. Just 29 more 3rd place votes for Gerhart from the 400 or so that left him off their ballots completely would have given him the 2009 Heisman.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 12:05 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16408 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 3:09 am to
Anyone who doesn’t have JD & Nix on their ballot should lose their vote.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14812 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 3:21 am to
quote:

Anyone who doesn’t have JD & Nix on their ballot should lose their vote.


There’s a case to be made for not having Nix top 3. Strength of schedule, percentage of throws behind the line, poor performance when in the SEC.

A ballot of JD/Harrison/Penix could be defended.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9912 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:04 am to
Nix has 17 passes completed for +20yards
Daniels has 20 TD passes for +20 yards. Let that sink in!!
Posted by OJsLifeCoach
NYC
Member since Aug 2023
1130 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:21 am to
quote:

Too drunk for math right now


Said the exact same thing to the officer when he asked if I had any idea how fast I was going.

- Sent from the holding cell
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
3636 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:21 am to
more than just the West coast vote the Heisman. the other Heisman winner all know who should really get it. Im hearing a lot of other media people saying it's Jayden Daniels hands down.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19749 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:48 am to
He’s gonna get some West Coast votes too being a San Bernardino kid.
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