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re: 20 Years Ago in LSU Baseball
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:18 am to LSURussian
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:18 am to LSURussian
Skip gave a talk at a luncheon I attended earlier this week and spoke about this very topic. He said with the scholarship rules now and the new bats, he says no one will ever win 5 CWS in 10 years again. There's too much parity.
He said if those same restrictions were in effect when he was coach, he wouldn't win like he did.
He went through some scenarios where he would offer a player $200 in scholarship money, enough to buy books for a couple of classes, and that would keep that player from going with a competitor.
He also said he had as many as 45 players on his roster at one point. He said he didn't know all of their names.
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I've used that parity word several times on several threads . Some on here don't believe it exists .
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Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:21 am to Tiger1988
You right steroids don't make you make contact but you would forget about Bryce Adams striking out 3 times a game if he hit homeruns most of the time he did make contact. Those bats had a wider sweet spot so some of those hits that are off the end of the bat or jammed slightly that are just fly balls and weak ground out now are hit on the barrel in the 90's and are home runs or hit hard enough to get through the infield.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:25 am to geauxtigers33
quote:Beau Jordan is your better example
You right steroids don't make you make contact but you would forget about Bryce Adams striking out 3 times a game if he hit homeruns most of the time he did make contact
He hit .286, with a .410 slg % and 4 homers
Realistically, with the 90s bats, you are looking at him being at:
.320 with a .500 slg % and 10-15 homers
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:25 am to Brageous
quote:
, not to take away from Skip, because he changed the sport.
Skip is one of the main reasons is it like that today. People on here act like saying there is more parity and tougher to win is a knock on Skip. It's not at all you can only win in the era you are in and he was the best at it. He would win today as well but he would be closer to CPM's success than his own.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:28 am to cartig
quote:They don't know what it was like in the 80's and 90's. There were only a dozen or so college baseball programs that took the sport seriously.
I've used that parity word several times on several threads . Some on here don't believe it exists .
When Skip spoke earlier this week he asked the audience who among us still considers So Cal, Miami or Texas elite baseball programs?
Yet when he was coaching, those three, plus Miss St under Ron Polk and Wichita State were THE strong programs he had to beat.
He brought up unlikely Coastal Carolina from last season and how they caught lightening in a bottle to win it all. Then he predicted CC will never win another CWS.
I don't know if he's correct about that, but it's difficult to argue with The Man about college baseball.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:33 am to Tiger1988
quote:
This doesn't make you hit the ball. Bonds was a career .300 hitter who hit a ton of doubles. He still made a lot of contact.
Steroids DO NOT make you make contact.
Adams and others strike out a shitload or make weak arse contact. Don't buy that logic at all even with lighter bats.
It was JI'm Swanki that was the difference.
Skip handled the pitchers and was a great in game called unlike Pawl.
the barrels on the 1997 bats were bigger and had larger sweet spots. Hits that die 30 ft short of the wall now would have carried well over the fence in the 1990s. You didn't have to square up a pitch to hit a home run back then
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:33 am to Brageous
No doubt one of the greatest teams of all time. What's funny is a lot of the posters on here are freaking out about losing 3 midweek games so far when the '97 team lost 4 including 2 to UNO. They also lost 2/3 to Bama in the last series of the regular season including a 28-2 loss. Every team has weaknesses. This year's team has the potential to make a deep run in Omaha and I hope we are talking about them being one of the greatest of all time 20 years from now.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:40 am to Brageous
Yep, what a season. Went to the CWS that year as well. Great memories!
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:42 am to Brageous
The picture of Doug Thompson throwing his glove in the air and screaming is burned into memory.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:44 am to skinny domino
Brett Laxton
Posted on 3/17/17 at 11:55 am to geauxtigers33
Nobody mentioned the balls yet for a reason.
SMH.
SMH.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:00 pm to Tiger1988
Brett Laxton. Such an interesting career. Amazing, good, bad, pretty good
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:02 pm to Brageous
Real LSU baseball
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:02 pm to Brageous
quote:
Mike Koerner
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:09 pm to geauxtigers33
quote:Skip said at our luncheon that PM winning at a near 75% rate at LSU in today's college baseball environment is outstanding.
. He would win today as well but he would be closer to CPM's success than his own.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:27 pm to LSURussian
Ok
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:31 pm to FightinTiga
Thanks for participating. Here's your trophy...
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:59 pm to Brageous
My favorite game that year was the last one -
the 13-6 CWS NCG destruction of the Skoal Drool UATattoo MulliGumpneck Things.
We came oh so close to winning three consecutive national championships.
In 1998, USC had to beat us twice to get to the NCG against Arizona State, and they did.
the 13-6 CWS NCG destruction of the Skoal Drool UATattoo MulliGumpneck Things.
We came oh so close to winning three consecutive national championships.
In 1998, USC had to beat us twice to get to the NCG against Arizona State, and they did.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 3/17/17 at 1:05 pm to Tiger1988
quote:
This doesn't make you hit the ball. Bonds was a career .300 hitter who hit a ton of doubles. He still made a lot of contact.
Steroids DO NOT make you make contact.
No one thinks roids makes you a contact hitter. Roids take those warning track guys and make hrs hitters. Roids turn a HOF like Bonds into the best power hitter in mlb history. No one thinks roids turns the average guy into a great hitter,but they most certainly make average baseball players into great ones.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 1:06 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The bats in the 90s were freaking -5 big barrels
Drop 5 big barrel for a college kids is unfair.
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