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re: 2 seasons into the CBK era… I’m still a little amazed…

Posted on 12/9/23 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 2:39 pm to
BK was 34-34 (50%) vs top 25 & 4-11 (27%) vs top 10 @ notre dame.

BK is currently 3-5 (38%) vs top 25 & 2-4 (33%) vs top 10 @ LSU.

Again, I'm seeing a pattern of losing the big games here. He will win lots of games, but he will lose the majority of the biggest games just like he did at notre dame. History has a tendency to repeat itself, just take off your purple & gold glasses. It's very easy to see.
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 2:47 pm to
Just curious, two years ago who would you have hired instead of BK??
Posted by hedgehog
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2006
2266 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 3:42 pm to
A younger coach like Lane or Lincoln.

Posted by UnemployedBagMan
Member since Nov 2023
24 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 3:44 pm to
Him continuing that “pattern” the last 2 years is a good sign if you really think about it though. He’s shown that despite being at rock bottom pretty much, he’s still able to pull off his normal, usual type of coaching job/season… so just wait or imagine, what he can do whenever he has a normal typical LSU roster/talent…
I mean, idk about you, but when we fired O and were looking for a new coach, I definitely didn’t imagine we’d be able to find someone who’d come in and immediately have us winning double digit games as well as the SEC west in his 1st 15 months at the helm… I figured that even if we had hired some absolute grand slam unimaginable unthinkable coach, even then it’d still be like at least 3 or 4 years before we saw double digit dubs again… 5 to beat Bama and win our division.
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just take off your purple & gold glasses. It's very easy to see.
I don’t have purple and gold glasses on, I just understand that real life isn’t a video game…
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BK is currently 3-5 (38%) vs top 25 & 2-4 (33%) vs top 10 @ LSU.
tbh, the fact that he has even won a few of those games is remarkable. Especially when you consider the fact that most of the losses he’s had have been on the road. If you know anything abt the sport, you know playing on the road in the SEC is probably the hardest thing to do. Try doing it with the roster he’s had to work with…
Posted by UnemployedBagMan
Member since Nov 2023
24 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 3:48 pm to
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A younger coach like Lane or Lincoln.


Well Lincoln is going to be looking for a new job soon, maybe you should start campaigning now for us to hire him…
Posted by hedgehog
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2006
2266 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 3:54 pm to
The team had top 25 talent when he took the job. Stop with the 39 scholly excuse. That’s on Woody for firing O in early October. It’s the norm now to turn over a third or more of your roster each year with the transfer portal. He’s missed on more portal/recruits than he’s hit.

His best win was getting JD5. Yet BK has managed to only go 9-3 with JD5 and the best WR duo in the country. Remember Nabers and Jr were part of muh 39.
Posted by hedgehog
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:07 pm to
Lincoln has more playoff appearances at age 40 than BK has at 62.

He still has not won a playoff game in 3 chances. But his upside is much higher than BK as he’s 20+ years younger.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21695 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:09 pm to
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If two years ago I told you over the next two years:

-we’d have two 10 win seasons
-the most prolific offense in CFB comparable in ways to 2019
-a biletnikoff finalist/winner
-a heisman finalist/winner
-best bama one of those years
-play for the sec title one of those years


If you told me that then I would have told you that that is a historic choke job not to win another National Championship with what you listed.

Thanks BK and Matt House
Posted by UnemployedBagMan
Member since Nov 2023
24 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Lincoln has more playoff appearances at age 40 than BK has at 62.

He’s also had 3 Heisman winners, and one Heisman runner up… know what he doesn’t have tho? He doesn’t have a single playoff win despite all of that… that tells you everything you need to know about him and his fraudulence
Posted by hedgehog
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2006
2266 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 4:34 pm to
I stated he had no playoff wins in my post.

So I see you’re agreeing that Lincoln established more before age 40 (in less than 10 years as a head coach) than BK has at age 62 with decades of head coaching experience.
Posted by UnemployedBagMan
Member since Nov 2023
24 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:07 pm to
I’m not agreeing with you on anything. The only Riley I wouldn’t be too mad about seeing in Purple and Gold one day would be Lincoln’s brother, Garrett. He’s going to end up being the most successful Riley when it’s all said and done. Just watch. Lincoln’s a fraud.
He’s hasn’t won a single playoff game despite the abundance of talented players he’s had. Every time he’s made the playoffs, he’s been literally out coached and embarrassed. Even by fricken coach O He was lucky to have coached in the big12 during a time period when Texas was down, real down, and there was no other tough competition. He cashed in on his name and got himself paid before the SEC or Texas could expose him and make his name worthless… now USC is paying the price and is stuck having to eat the soggy biscuit.
Posted by Lige
Member since Nov 2015
1418 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:11 pm to
I wonder how the 2003 or 2011 teams defenses would hold up against today’s RPO offenses. It didn’t seem possible for us to have such a great offense back then.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30099 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:16 pm to
He may not win a title.

But the culture reversal was needed and LSU will benefit.
Posted by UnemployedBagMan
Member since Nov 2023
24 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:31 pm to
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The team had top 25 talent when he took the job


Dude you really don’t know jack fricking shite if this is a serious statement.
I should’ve known you were nothing but a troll when you suggested that Lincoln Riley would’ve been a better hire…

You’re complaining about a coach that took over a program on the brink of being a perpetual dumpster fire, and got them to back to back 10 win seasons in his first 2 years. With only 1 loss in the past 2 years that’s been inexcusable… while championing for a fraud who despite being in a conference for the athletically challenged still struggled to break .500…
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9112 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:40 pm to
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Notre Dame fans harped that Kelly could never bring it all together at once


That’s at ND, most years at LSU, he can simply recruit defensive talent in Louisiana and still field a top 25 defense. I think that was another reason he came to LSU, he knew it was a helluva lot easier to recruit elite talent here.


At the same time, you have to compete against the best talent in the country. He’s put two really good offensive teams together back to back, now keep that going and get the defense back to LSU standards and he’ll be in the playoffs.


First thing I’d do is take those tough first games off of the schedule until you have this thing rolling and can field an elite offense, defense and special teams. We can’t forget about special teams. It makes a huge impact on games, especially the big ones.

I’m not sure I’d ever schedule a top 25 team to play us with the schedule we going to have from here on. Not until all the other teams start doing the same thing. What they do is penalize teams that schedule those games. It’s rewarded to schedule McNeese State and beat them 70-0.
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