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re: 10 Team Sec Tournament is Confusing
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:01 pm to MOT
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:01 pm to MOT
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It really isn't that confusing, and there is no point in being pissed about the high seed winners from day 1 getting a bye on day 2. There are 5 teams in each bracket so someone has to have a bye the second day also, and you can't give the top seed a bye two days in a row.
Kentucky is essentially getting a bye in the first round then a bye in the second round.
The fact that the #4 team has an easier route to the #1 team than vice versa is a bit baffling.
The only way the top two seeds get a good draw is if the 3 and 4 seeds lose.
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Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:12 pm to noonan
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Kentucky is essentially getting a bye in the first round then a bye in the second round.
Are you kidding me? Playing a game in the first round of the SEC tourney is not essentially a bye. This is the SEC, it will be a tough game.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:20 pm to Broham
Which would you rather, play the 9 seed then have a day off, or play the 6 seed then play the next day?
I don't know about you, but I would much rather play the 4th worst team then the 6th worst.
USCe gets an even worse draw. They potentially play the 5 seed while Florida plays the 10? Really?
I don't know about you, but I would much rather play the 4th worst team then the 6th worst.
USCe gets an even worse draw. They potentially play the 5 seed while Florida plays the 10? Really?
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:25 pm to noonan
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Kentucky is essentially getting a bye in the first round
quote:What is the alternative? Give #1 a bye all the way to the semifinals?
The fact that the #4 team has an easier route to the #1 team than vice versa is a bit baffling.
quote:There is no such thing as a good or bad draw in the SEC tournament. I think the only thing teams usually want to avoid is the 4th game the first couple of days because they end up playing into the middle of the night.
The only way the top two seeds get a good draw is if the 3 and 4 seeds lose.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:30 pm to noonan
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4th worst team then the 6th worst.
Is there really a difference in the SEC? C'mon man
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:31 pm to MOT
You are arguing just to argue now.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:33 pm to Broham
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quote: 4th worst team then the 6th worst. Is there really a difference in the SEC? C'mon man
Actually they would be the 7th worst team.
But seriously, are you telling me that Kentucky has the more difficult draw?
And florida's road is tougher than USCe?
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 5/21/12 at 7:47 pm to noonan
Forces a semifinal game on Saturday. That's what the coaches wanted.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 8:04 pm to noonan
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You are arguing just to argue now
How so? I'm confused by your comment about Kentucky having a first round bye. I'm confused about this easier draw, tougher road stuff and asked what you would do differently. You haven't explained what should be done differently nor have you acknowledged the logic behind the format.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 8:12 pm to MOT
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How so? I'm confused by your comment about Kentucky having a first round bye.
Did I misspell essentially?
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I'm confused about this easier draw, tougher road stuff
Seriously?
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and asked what you would do differently. You haven't explained what should be done differently nor have you acknowledged the logic behind the format
You've given me 30 minutes to come up with something better, all I said is I don't like the bracket.
Are you on the committee or something?
It's really confusing to me that you would think we have an easier draw by playing the 6 seed rather than the 9 seed. Please explain how that is the easier road?
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 5/21/12 at 8:28 pm to noonan
You're right. We should get a bye all the way to Thursday, it is the only way this could possibly be fair. I should have figured this out sooner.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 8:34 pm to noonan
While I don't have a "better format", in the current format I would rather be in Kentucky's position then LSU's spot. In order to reach "Game 10" LSU would have to beat either Arkansas or a very hot Moo state while Kentucky would have to beat #9 seed Ole Miss.
On the same point, I would much rather be Florida then USCe. I'd rather play Auburn then have to play Vandy to advance to the same point.
I'm not sure of the solution, other then to let the top two seeds pick their position.
At the same time, there is no easy out in the SEC tournament so I'd rather be in the position we are because we could go 0-2 and will still probably get a top 8 seed while the same can't be said for UK.
On the same point, I would much rather be Florida then USCe. I'd rather play Auburn then have to play Vandy to advance to the same point.
I'm not sure of the solution, other then to let the top two seeds pick their position.
At the same time, there is no easy out in the SEC tournament so I'd rather be in the position we are because we could go 0-2 and will still probably get a top 8 seed while the same can't be said for UK.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 8:45 pm to DORSEYmakesTEBOWcry
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While I don't have a "better format", in the current format I would rather be in Kentucky's position then LSU's spot. In order to reach "Game 10" LSU would have to beat either Arkansas or a very hot Moo state while Kentucky would have to beat #9 seed Ole Miss.
You can't help how the seeds fall, who's hot and who's not, etc. It wouldn't make sense to give the #4 team the first day bye and not the #1.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 9:57 pm to MOT
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You can't help how the seeds fall, who's hot and who's not, etc. It wouldn't make sense to give the #4 team the first day bye and not the #1.
Hot and not is irrelevant to me. That said, any bracket that has the #4 seed play a worse seed than the #1 seed in their first round game strikes me as a very shitty bracket.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 10:01 pm to Joshjrn
The #4 has to play a worse seed in the first round since the #1 doesn't play anyone.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 10:03 pm to MOT
Nvm
I'm done with this.
I'm done with this.
This post was edited on 5/21/12 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 5/21/12 at 10:34 pm to MOT
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The #4 has to play a worse seed in the first round since the #1 doesn't play anyone.
And in the second round, the #4 seed won't be playing anyone. The following are indisputable facts:
Ignoring "rounds", the first opponent for the #4 team will be the #9 team while the first opponent for the #1 team will be the #6 team (assuming highest seeds advance).
Both the #4 seed and #1 seeds will receive one bye.
Both the #4 seed and the #1 seed will win the tournament if they win four games in a row.
Posted on 5/21/12 at 11:03 pm to Joshjrn
Your indisputable facts are based on ignoring rounds and assuming certain teams win.
The true undisputable fact is the #1 and #2 seeds have a bye and will take the field in the second round without a loss. No one else can say that. Everyone else has to either play their way into that position, play their way into a bye, or play their way into a bye by winning and hoping for help.
The true undisputable fact is the #1 and #2 seeds have a bye and will take the field in the second round without a loss. No one else can say that. Everyone else has to either play their way into that position, play their way into a bye, or play their way into a bye by winning and hoping for help.
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