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re: 1/9/12 -- What have you heard happened that caused LSU to play so poorly?

Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1381 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Lee was barely even eligible academically

Whoa! Why are you messing with the narrative?
- JJ is the villain.
- Les is a clown
- Lee is good character guy, pro-style QB that could have won the game

If you want us to consider other possibilities, get out of here.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:43 pm to
Let it go, that was over 3 years ago
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:46 pm to
I heard it was because of Les Miles

I also saw that it was because of Les Miles
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:49 pm to
KYS
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8813 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:54 pm to
Hey, while we're on the topic of painful, repressed memories you didn't think you'd have recall...

What images does everyone have burned in their brain from this game?

I know the major ones, but I remember a play where JJ loses his cool, rolls out, and eventually runs for no gain. But, in the replay, you can see a receiver running wide open across the field 30yds deep, waving frantically at JJ. When JJ goes down, the receiver jumps up and down in frustration.

I don't even know which receiver it was.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:57 pm to
Classic case of coaching scared and undisciplined players off the field.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

there were some people saying Lee was barely even eligible academically. . . . Les tried everything he could to get through to the kid, nothing worked




Yet the kid that almost ruined the season by getting tossed in jail, deserved all the playing time he could get


If true, Les is the ultimate dumbass, and cant leave fast enough
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35386 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

there were some people saying Lee was barely even eligible academically, or may not have been for that game.
They said that every game after the Alabama game despite the fact that Lee came in and handled the final set of downs.
quote:

He had his family tickets taken away before the game at bama on nov 3rd.
I have never heard this rumor. Can anyone back it up? Because Les should get hammered if that were true, but I highly doubt it.


I do have to admit that I think enough time has past to discuss it without butthurt, but I still refer to the basketball coach as cJJ, so there's that.
Posted by LSUcc
St. Louis, MO
Member since Feb 2009
2057 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

What images does everyone have burned in their brain from this game?


I will never forget JJ shoveling the ball to the linebacker. I left the bulldog immediately.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68536 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Yet the kid that almost ruined the season by getting tossed in jail, deserved all the playing time he could get


You do know it was never proven he did it right? And the accuser had is own questionable character issues.

The BRPD is a joke, and everyone should be appalled that those idiots are the ones getting paid to protect our community.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:27 pm to
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Those are the games Jordan Jefferson started after Lee was unceremoniously benched.

Let's get something straight, Jefferson came in at the beginning of the 2nd qtr after Lee had thrown an interception. I know a lot of kids today think INTs aren't a big deal, but in a high stakes game against a championship caliber team, you do NOT turn the ball over.

After Jefferson came in, not only did he lead LSU to a win over Alabama, but also over W. Kentucky, 42-9, going 8-14 for 168 yds, 1 TD, NO INTs, and 20 yds rushing.

Then he led LSU to a 52-3 win over Mississippi, going 7-7 for 88 yds, 1 TD and NO INTs. (Lee was 1-1 for 17 yds.)

Jefferson was 18/29 for 208 yds, 1 TD and 1 INT vs Arky.

Jefferson had a horrible game against UGA going 5/13 for 30 yds but no INTs.

So Jefferson had essentially won 5 games in a row, going 44/73, 561 yds, 3 TD, 1 int going into the BCSCG. In those 5 games Jefferson also ran for 137 yds and a TD on 35 carries. Basically 700 yards, 4 tds and 1 int in 5 games.

In other words, the idea that those 5 wins by Jefferson were some sort of indictment against his ability is absurd, as Bama in November, Aky and UGA were all top ten teams - that Jordan Jefferson BEAT.
quote:

A shot in the arm is all that team needed to wake up, I believe

No, they need to shoot the other team in the arm, and legs, to have a chance at that point.

I think some folks just don't know how to let shite like this go. Just because it didn't work out with JJ doesn't mean it would've worked out with anyone else on the bench.

As a coaching staff what you DO NOT do is panic and start just changing shite up for the sake of changing shite up.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7135 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Rematches never go well for the previous winner.

There you go.



Perfect fit.

For reference,see Florida vs Florida St. Very similar. Change in offense and defense by Florida in second meeting. Same result.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39208 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:40 pm to
Do you think that facemask against Benji Thibodeaux was bullshite?
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

1/9/12


Geezus people LET IT GO
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260224 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:56 pm to
I've heard the JJ story from someone else who was there. I've also heard some players were not very happy with it but not from the same source. Who knows though.
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by lakelanier
Member since Oct 2014
972 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:04 pm to
This is the first time Miles stubbornness really came to light. Since then we have seen this happen often. Welter, Harris, play calling, utilization of players. Think about it most of what you asked about relates to that stubbornness.

I also think he had too lax control on the player nighttime activities. I said in another thread months ago, his behavior at the rally the night before the game was erratic. Trying to hard to look like he was in control.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56288 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:05 pm to
Why does Les get the blame for Welter starting?
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14170 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Lee came in and handled the final set of downs.


This proves that the rumor that Lee was ineligible is BS.

quote:

He had his family tickets taken away before the game at bama on nov 3rd.


I call BS on this too.
Posted by lakelanier
Member since Oct 2014
972 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:15 pm to
Do you really think he was correct to not step in? He is the head coach, he makes decisions, be it poor ones, on other positions, why not LB.
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