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re: Who was the last CAN'T MISS prospect from La. to spurn LSU....

Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:26 am to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:26 am to
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But at the time he was a not just "a" can't miss prospect he was basically "the" consummate can't miss prospect regardless of how he turned out.



But the OP said that really affected us. Losing McKnight didn't affect us picking up Ridley same class.
Posted by Raptordawg
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:26 am to
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quote:Ridley did for us basically what McKnight did for USC. he ran for 2250 yards at 6.5 YPC? mckinght>ridley however he wasn't a huge loss, i agree



In the PAC-1.... Big difference,if he was in the SEC and there is no argueing that point. In fact, I remember him getting pulled several times due to his fumblitis. It would have probably been worse in the SEC.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:26 am to
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quote:Joe McKnight didn't hurt LSU. He was overrated and a prima donna. In retrospect. At the time it was a major loss.



Yes, but did it hurt LSU? McKnight was a product of John Curtis' historical rep. He didn't amount to shite in college or the NFL, so I don't call that a huge loss. In fact, I'd call Wallace a bigger loss than McKnight.


But you act as if he did nothing there. We certainly didn't need either Berlin or Eli to win a title but you would consider them losses at the time.

I don't disagree with you, just noting that he was very highly regarded at the time and we missed. The guy is a POS so he can just fall into the Janzen Jackson category of misses.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:27 am to
How about Travis Minor? I think it worked out for both parties. LSU was loaded at RB at that time.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:27 am to
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But at the time he was a not just "a" can't miss prospect he was basically "the" consummate can't miss prospect regardless of how he turned out.



But the OP said that really affected us. Losing McKnight didn't affect us picking up Ridley same class.






Fair enough I was basically relying on the thread title.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:27 am to
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he ran for 2250 yards at 6.5 YPC?


mckinght>ridley


however he wasn't a huge loss, i agree


McKnight was not an every down back, he always split a lot of carries. Ridleyh was THE back his last year and did out rush McKnight in his best year. I think he has a leg up on him in TDs too. McKnight got a lot more carries than Ridley his first 2 years, but we also had Charles Scott/Keiland Williams those years.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 12:33 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:32 am to
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How about Travis Minor? I think it worked out for both parties. LSU was loaded at RB at that time.



true, i ll throw out JD Booty as well.
Posted by Raptordawg
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:32 am to
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quote: quote:Joe McKnight didn't hurt LSU. He was overrated and a prima donna. In retrospect. At the time it was a major loss. Yes, but did it hurt LSU? McKnight was a product of John Curtis' historical rep. He didn't amount to shite in college or the NFL, so I don't call that a huge loss. In fact, I'd call Wallace a bigger loss than McKnight. But you act as if he did nothing there. We certainly didn't need either Berlin or Eli to win a title but you would consider them losses at the time. I don't disagree with you, just noting that he was very highly regarded at the time and we missed. The guy is a POS so he can just fall into the Janzen Jackson category of misses.


I agree, that it hurt at the time of the commitment, but in the long run McKnight was a non-factor. Nothing like in the 90's when LSU was losing athletes like Warrick Dunn, Brandon Mitchell, Ed Reed, Peyton Manning and the like.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:32 am to
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Joe McKnight didn't hurt LSU. He was overrated and a prima donna.


It's what he symbolized. The #1 recruit leaving the state opened the door for others to leave.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:33 am to
Can we go back to Applewhite and Dunn days? Applewhite wouldn't have been considered a "can't miss" prospect but Dunn likely would fall into that category.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:34 am to
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It's what he symbolized. The #1 recruit leaving the state opened the door for others to leave.


I think we were all worried about this but it hasn't come to fruition.
Posted by Tigah32
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:34 am to
The last one was Joe McKnight, everyone was saying that he was the next reggie bush. Good thing he was a bust.
Posted by Raptordawg
Youngsville, La.
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:38 am to
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quote:Joe McKnight didn't hurt LSU. He was overrated and a prima donna. It's what he symbolized. The #1 recruit leaving the state opened the door for others to leave.


But, the thing is, the door hasn't opened. A few prospects get away, but nothing like the late 80's or early 90's. Yes, we've seen the likes of Robinson leave, but it really hasn't hurt LSU on the field, yet.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:40 am to
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Dunn likely would fall into that category.


Like I said, LSU had Faulk, Collins, and Mealey then though. Dunn was a great player though.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:41 am to
How about Arnaz Battle? He would've been a starter imo.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:42 am to
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Like I said, LSU had Faulk, Collins, and Mealey then though. Dunn was a great player though.



Yeah but he was a beast at FSU and nobody can deny that we could have used his talent, we weren't that good then.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:42 am to
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How about Arnaz Battle? He would've been a starter imo.




I've always felt he was very overrated and never overly impressed me at Notre Dame.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:46 am to
Yet he was in the NFL for a decade.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:46 am to
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Yet he was in the NFL for a decade


I would have put Jimmy Williams as a bigger miss than Battle.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:51 am to
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