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What does Notre Dame finishing 6th say about Kelly and recruiting?

Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted by tigbit
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:03 pm
Any idea why Notre Dame, also getting a new head coach did not take the hit we did?


Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:04 pm to
Because they kept the entire staff but him.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:04 pm to
Didn’t know the recruiting cycle was over. Thanks for the news.
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:04 pm to
All the recruiters stayed. Kelly normally delegates, especially when he was at a school that recruits nationwide.
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
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1025 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:05 pm to
I take it to mean he likes to hire guys who appeal to recruits.
Posted by tigbit
Member since Jun 2011
2800 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:06 pm to
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All the recruiters stayed. Kelly normally delegates, especially when he was at a school that recruits nationwide.



makes sense.

Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52835 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:06 pm to
Because Marcus Freeman, whom Kelly convinced to go to Notre Dame over LSU last year.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25045 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:07 pm to
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Any idea why Notre Dame, also getting a new head coach did not take the hit we did?


Because Brian Kelly didn't instill into the ND players what apparently Ed did to some of ours.

Let's be honest, our locker room since 2019 has been toxic. In that environment, of course they're going to jump ship.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:07 pm to
Says he hired a great DC and now head coach that is a good recruiter in Marcus Freeman.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118894 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:08 pm to
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I take it to mean he likes to hire guys who appeal to recruits.


Kind of like Frank Wilson.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7606 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:09 pm to
Did Ed O get fired mid/season from ND?
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2669 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:10 pm to
Also we fired our coach and had a 6-6 season while theirs was hired because he did a great job. There’s a huge difference in the 2. Then, in an effort to stabilize things they promoted from within.

For what its worth I listed to an interview with Marcus Freeman their head coach and he said his number 1 priority was trying to keep their class together. So even in his mind there was a chance it could fall apart. Most of those guys were committed before Kelly left where as we got what we already had committed.
Posted by The Creaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
1063 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:10 pm to
It says a lot an all of it
is very good for CBK.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:11 pm to
Marcus Freeman is the reason the class is good not Kelly. Kelly didn’t get classes that good until Freeman came.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 5:28 pm
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:13 pm to
And Kelly is the guy who hired Freeman. So...
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7897 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:13 pm to
Because Freeman helped recruit most of those players and their entire staff stayed. Familiarity was still there. Orgeron had the 7th ranked class the year he took over for Les. This head coaching change was very different than the previous LSU one or the Notre dame one.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:16 pm to
When an entire staff changes it’s almost 100% that the class will not be great.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7973 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:17 pm to
ND is a national brand that for the most part, kept its staff intact. Brian Kelly walked into a program that was 11-11 over the last two seasons that was in need of a complete overhaul from bottom up.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:20 pm to
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Because they kept the entire staff but him.


Which if we are being honest is a bit alarming

Yes I’m aware Saban brought 0 assistants to LSU as well
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 5:23 pm to
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Which if we are being honest is a bit alarming

Yes I’m aware Saban brought 0 assistants to LSU as well


Kelly brought more than Saban though. The S/C coach and Polian. Not sure what you are alarmed about.
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