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re: Welp, now we know why we didn't get Leo Lewis
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:05 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:05 am to ProjectP2294
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The OP is presupposing that everyone who reads this thread knows that Leo Lewis is the recruit that signed with another school that has been mentioned in the Ole Miss news.
At this point in time, it's all alleged though.
Oh ok...haven't seen that.
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:07 am to bwallcubfan
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Oh ok...haven't seen that.
This is literally the only thread that I've seen that's name Lewis as the guy, but admittedly, I haven't read up a lot on this.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:08 am to bwallcubfan
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But I don't see what this has to do with the Ole Miss news.
Simply confirms what many people thought. There was more being exchanged than people knew for sure and this news confirms that.
I (like many people here) thought we'd pull Lewis and this explains/confirms why (probably among other factors) we did not.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:11 am to ProjectP2294
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What I'm trying to imply is the danger of that kind of precedent being set.
It's standard operating procedure for the NCAA, they aren't setting any precedents here. Have you never heard of Lester Earl?
Nobody is talking about the NCAA setting a precedent for this, I'm talking about recruits.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:12 am to mwade91383
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Nobody is talking about the NCAA setting a precedent for this, I'm talking about recruits.
This statement makes no sense. If the NCAA has always handled these situations this way, the precedent for recruits has also already been set.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:20 am to mwade91383
Ole Miss cheating was one of the worst kept secrets in the FBS.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
I would say that if he took money to play football he is no longer an amateur and can no longer play collegiate football.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:32 am to ipodking
I never received a dime from LSU when I came out of high school
They don't do it
They don't do it
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:34 am to ProjectP2294
LL had a choice. Take the cash, go somewhere else (or don't), move on w your life. Why did he talk? He's from Mississippi. OM nation might make his life miserable for years, it still might be very shortsighted. NCAA can't stop fans from ostracizing him or worse.
Hypothetical:
5 LSU recruits get paid by LSU boosters, they go elsewhere, NCAA gives them immunity, LSU gets hammered. These kids are smart right? What if every program/recruit did this?
Its interesting you referenced LE. You think LSU nation embraces him w open arms? You think he's glad he talked all those years ago?
Hypothetical:
5 LSU recruits get paid by LSU boosters, they go elsewhere, NCAA gives them immunity, LSU gets hammered. These kids are smart right? What if every program/recruit did this?
Its interesting you referenced LE. You think LSU nation embraces him w open arms? You think he's glad he talked all those years ago?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:34 am to ipodking
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You better have some proof before you say some bullshite like this
Does the same standard apply when we accuse other schools of doing it? That's the naivety of the situation. Fans are always ready to throw out accusations towards other schools but when it's their own it could never be true. That's just ignorant.
We pay and anyone with any kind of open mind knows it. The Peterson and Bowe legends weren't pulled from the sky. The Willie Lyles stuff wasn't just us being nice to him. Saban had a bankroll when he was here and it's not really a secret. But I guess it's only at Bama that he's cheated.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:35 am to ProjectP2294
quote:makes him a piece of garbage human being.
aking the offer of NCAA immunity and getting to keep the cash another school gave you doesn't make you a snitch. It just makes you smart.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:42 am to mwade91383
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Why did he talk?
You're acting like he approached the NCAA.
He talked because the NCAA forced him to.
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5 LSU recruits get paid by LSU boosters, they go elsewhere, NCAA gives them immunity, LSU gets hammered. These kids are smart right? What if every program/recruit did this?
You apparently have some disconnect with reality if you think recruits are lining up unsolicited at the doors of the NCAA to tell them all about the offers they got. Any recruit talking to the NCAA was compelled to do so.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:43 am to airfernando
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makes him a piece of garbage human being.
No. It doesn't. The offer is "Tell us what happened and keep playing with immunity" or "frick you, you're ineligible."
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:43 am to ProjectP2294
His camp approached an LSU group wanting 180,000 and the LSU group told him to Geaux F himself
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:46 am to Section225
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His camp approached an LSU group wanting 180,000 and the LSU group told him to Geaux F himself
That's good. He's not worth 10x what Ole Miss was offering.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:34 pm to ProjectP2294
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Taking the offer of NCAA immunity and getting to keep the cash another school gave you doesn't make you a snitch. It just makes you smart.
A smart snitch.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:38 pm to ProjectP2294
What exactly does Lester Earl have to do with any of this?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:59 pm to ProjectP2294
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No. It doesn't. The offer is "Tell us what happened and keep playing with immunity" or "frick you, you're ineligible."
What are you basing this on? How do you know they threatened him and with what?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:06 pm to ProjectP2294
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You apparently have some disconnect with reality if you think recruits are lining up unsolicited at the doors of the NCAA to tell them all about the offers they got
I don't think there's a group of people doing it, yet. Again, this goes back to what I said about precedent (for recruits). Continuing to incentivize this kind of behaviour (give them immunity and letting them keep the cash) will lead to more and more recruits selling competing schools out. Which could very easily hurt other schools, LSU included.
Saying this move is "smart" is condoning ratting out because he (Lewis) isn't punished at all, doesn't take anything else into consideration. Lewis being totally off the hook, why wouldn't more recruits do this if they get the best of both worlds and get to punish their competition?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:07 pm to mwade91383
Did the NCAA not ask how much MSU paid him? He didn't go their for their winning tradition or ability to get you drafted.
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