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Star ranking measurement
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:06 am
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:06 am
Do the recruiting sites share how they measure -- I am curious how objective are they?
5-stars are pretty obvious most of the time
1-stars are pretty obvious most of the time
I am curious what makes a 4 different from a 3 and 2...
And, why do they change over time? (outside of Bama grads at Rivals downgrading LSU's class rank for selling in to their recruits).
5-stars are pretty obvious most of the time
1-stars are pretty obvious most of the time
I am curious what makes a 4 different from a 3 and 2...
And, why do they change over time? (outside of Bama grads at Rivals downgrading LSU's class rank for selling in to their recruits).
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:27 am to BayouSizzle
ESPN puts aton of weight on the UA game.
Rivals is partial to certain programs and doesn't even try to hide it.
Scout is completely useless for rankings/ratings.
247 is the only one that seems to update apropriately and maintain some consistency in its evaluation process.
Anyway, that is my take.
Rivals is partial to certain programs and doesn't even try to hide it.
Scout is completely useless for rankings/ratings.
247 is the only one that seems to update apropriately and maintain some consistency in its evaluation process.
Anyway, that is my take.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:30 am to BayouSizzle
Think about it this way... if an NFL-style Draft were to happen but with high school players, 5-stars would be 1st rounders, 4-stars would go between rounds 2 and 4, 3-stars would be late-round picks (5-7) (ETA: or UDFAs), and 2-stars would be UDFAs at best.
This post was edited on 1/24/16 at 9:33 am
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:42 am to Stagg8
This is an excellent question, and one that is rarely talked about. For those concerned with measuring anything, a rating system must be established with measurable, optimal criteria, i.e. performance standards that every sought after player should possess.
While forty times, height, weight, grade point average and statistics related to their position are helpful, there are still other factors that guide great recruiters in landing a player who will contribute significantly during his eligibility and graduate and possibly turn pro.
A former recruiter told me once he always watched offensive linemen on film to see how they finished plays. He said that if the lineman fell often it was not a good sign; he also said that you wanted to carefully watch how a linemen got up after being on the ground. He said if they popped up quickly it demonstrated that they were fairly athletic. However, if they used their hands to balance themselves as they slowly made their way up, it was an indication they likely wouldn't be a big time player.
I am certain an interview goes a long way toward an offer, as a coach can get a glimpse of the person, and not just the player.
Regarding stats, wins are often overlooked when considering a running back or quarterback, players who handle the ball. Winning is everything and winners tend to make their way.
Rohan Davey was a winner. He had moxie and carried himself as such.
That quality rarely shows up in rankings.
Great post.
While forty times, height, weight, grade point average and statistics related to their position are helpful, there are still other factors that guide great recruiters in landing a player who will contribute significantly during his eligibility and graduate and possibly turn pro.
A former recruiter told me once he always watched offensive linemen on film to see how they finished plays. He said that if the lineman fell often it was not a good sign; he also said that you wanted to carefully watch how a linemen got up after being on the ground. He said if they popped up quickly it demonstrated that they were fairly athletic. However, if they used their hands to balance themselves as they slowly made their way up, it was an indication they likely wouldn't be a big time player.
I am certain an interview goes a long way toward an offer, as a coach can get a glimpse of the person, and not just the player.
Regarding stats, wins are often overlooked when considering a running back or quarterback, players who handle the ball. Winning is everything and winners tend to make their way.
Rohan Davey was a winner. He had moxie and carried himself as such.
That quality rarely shows up in rankings.
Great post.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:26 pm to Chris Warner
quote:Additionally...
Chris Warner
since we know they put a maximum on the number of 5* (4* too??) the criteria may change year-to-year to fit the window. So if you happen to have 12 DTs that met last years 5* criteria and they only plan on having 3 the criteria changes. In that sense the star rankings are as much competitive/comparative as they are about meeting metrics.
Me personally, I think that's why some years you get more 3* that turn out to studs than others. In another class that high 3* might be a solid 4*.
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