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re: Mickey Johnson takes State 5A lifting title
Posted on 3/13/11 at 7:45 pm to secftw
Posted on 3/13/11 at 7:45 pm to secftw
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A singlet won't help. But they do in fact make suits to aid in squatting and DL. It appears that such suits are allowed in LA state weightlifting. I just want to know if he wore one or not. The numbers are impressive at his age suit or no suit. They're just that much more impressive with no suit.
They are definitely legal and if he didn't wear one I'd be shocked.
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Posted on 3/13/11 at 7:59 pm to TigerEggs
Anyone know what he can hang clean?
Posted on 3/13/11 at 9:24 pm to JJ27
BTW, WM won the team title by 15 points.
Posted on 3/13/11 at 9:28 pm to JJ27
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BTW, WM won the team title by 15 points.
Thats why theyre always competitive in football b/c they are strong across the entire team. I heard your daddy Sanders say that as their team average in the clean got better, they got better as a team.
Posted on 3/13/11 at 9:33 pm to horndog
Direct correlation between cleans an hitting hard. BTW, Jeremy Many is the coach now.
Posted on 3/13/11 at 9:42 pm to JJ27
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BTW, Jeremy Many is the coach now.
I heard Sanders was having health probs. How is he doing? Apparently not good, if he got replaced. I went to high school with Jeremy's sister.
Posted on 3/13/11 at 9:49 pm to horndog
Not sure about Coach Sanders' health. Jmany is the AD at West ridge, football coach, powerlifting coach for the high school and teaches at CES 2-3 times a week. Busy man...
Posted on 3/13/11 at 11:32 pm to JJ27
Talked to a kid that competed for WM.
Johnson definitely used a bench top and squat suit. He would have been dumb not too.
FWIW the kid I talked to believed Chuck Hunter would have beat Johnson in squat and dead lift with the help of a suit. Hunter squatted 500 raw (no suit) as a Junior.
Johnson definitely used a bench top and squat suit. He would have been dumb not too.
FWIW the kid I talked to believed Chuck Hunter would have beat Johnson in squat and dead lift with the help of a suit. Hunter squatted 500 raw (no suit) as a Junior.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 7:24 am to wmrebel74
Suits are great for helping eliminate fatigue from holding the weight at the bottom of the lift while you wait for the judge to give the lift signal, but they don't help with the actual press. Too any people think that suits actually lift more weight for you, and thats not true.
Regardless, suit or no, dude is a beast. He's got the strength. Now, I want to see him get out there and improve his speed and quickness. A few points off his shuttle time and shave some time off the first 15 yards of his 40 and then I'll be really impressed.
Regardless, suit or no, dude is a beast. He's got the strength. Now, I want to see him get out there and improve his speed and quickness. A few points off his shuttle time and shave some time off the first 15 yards of his 40 and then I'll be really impressed.
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:16 am to FullBloodedTiger
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Suits are great for helping eliminate fatigue from holding the weight at the bottom of the lift while you wait for the judge to give the lift signal, but they don't help with the actual press. Too any people think that suits actually lift more weight for you, and thats not true.
bullshite. Eliminate fatigue? I don't deny that it probably aids in this but the fact is most suits require a certain amount of weight just to get the bar down to parallel (squat) or to the chest (bench). This alone means it obviously aids in lifting the weight in the bottom range of the lifts.
This post was edited on 3/14/11 at 9:18 am
Posted on 3/14/11 at 11:30 am to secftw
Here we go again...
Posted on 3/14/11 at 12:51 pm to TigerEggs
Like I said the kids numbers are already impressive even if there is a suit present. But there IS a difference between raw and equipped. Anyone who denies an advantage just plain doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. As for it only helping "fatigue".... 
Posted on 3/14/11 at 12:54 pm to secftw
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bullshite. Eliminate fatigue? I don't deny that it probably aids in this but the fact is most suits require a certain amount of weight just to get the bar down to parallel (squat) or to the chest (bench). This alone means it obviously aids in lifting the weight in the bottom range of the lifts.
IIRC suits also require you to 'fight the suit' at the bottom of the lift and take a considerable amount of technical know-how/practice before it will actually benefit you.
It's not a magic leotard you jump into that increases your deadlift/squat by 20 lbs. It's not a bench shirt
I'm not a powerlifter by any means though, I don't have the joints for it by a longshot
This post was edited on 3/14/11 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/14/11 at 12:55 pm to coldhotwings
Very impressive--I think he was pretty much expected to win the 5A lifting title, but it is still an outstanding effort.
Two questions about Mickey: (1) Will he qualify academically and (2) If so, where he help the team the most--as a center on offense or as a DT?
Two questions about Mickey: (1) Will he qualify academically and (2) If so, where he help the team the most--as a center on offense or as a DT?
This post was edited on 3/14/11 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 3/14/11 at 2:12 pm to rjokerlsu
It is very impressive.
And the thing to remember here is that he wasn't recruited because he is a good powerlifter, he was recruited because he can play ball...whatever he does in the weightroom is icing on the cake so the point about the suit is moot.
What is find more valuable than his lifting numbers is the dedication, hardwork, and focus it takes to be a successfull powerlifter... all of these qualitities can only help him excel at the next level
And the thing to remember here is that he wasn't recruited because he is a good powerlifter, he was recruited because he can play ball...whatever he does in the weightroom is icing on the cake so the point about the suit is moot.
What is find more valuable than his lifting numbers is the dedication, hardwork, and focus it takes to be a successfull powerlifter... all of these qualitities can only help him excel at the next level
Posted on 3/14/11 at 9:21 pm to bmy
I'm not going to reply to anything, I have to go to bed soon. Most squat suits nowadays with the trx material and centurion material give you a good 50-100 pounds on your lift with tight knee wraps. In deadlift, a good lifter can pull an extra 50 pounds or so. In bench, with either a rage x or a katana, one could get between 100-300 pounds out of a good, jacked neck, twisted arms bench shirt. I don't use single ply like the highschoolers and I could use one and get 200 out of it in a workout. The elite lifters are getting 300+ out of the single or double ply shirts. The materials are getting so good now that the divide between ipf single ply and ipa unlimited are very narrow. If you contest what I say it's because you can't use the gear well enough, and that's it. I won't say that I'm all world, but I have been involved in this stuff for long enough.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 10:53 am to TigerEggs
He sounds like a NT small in height but good weight and strength
Posted on 3/15/11 at 4:05 pm to The Mick
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Mickey Johnson
He's a freakin Tiger!!
Posted on 3/16/11 at 3:16 pm to TigerEggs
I'm guessing that's Bench Press numbers and not Press numbers.
Posted on 3/17/11 at 10:19 pm to alange
anyone know how much he can hang clean? It's probably the best test of explosive power that tranlates to football of all the lifts.
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