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McMahon and LSU Basketball gearing up for a busy September
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:35 pm
We have the following 2024 prospects scheduled for visits this upcoming month:
Billy Richmond (6’6" SF – #33 class of 2024) — September 8-10 LINK
Rakease Passmore (6’5' SF – #49 class of 2024) — September 22-24 LINK
Nic Codie (6’8" PF – #57 class of 2024) — September 22-24 LINK
Ryan Jones, Jr. (6’8" PF – #65 class of 2024) — September 22-24 LINK
Mikey Lewis (6’3" SG – #61 class of 2024) — September 23-24 LINK
Micah Robinson (6’7" SF – #92 class of 2024) — September 23-24 LINK
Pharaoh Compton (6’7" PF – #85 class of 2024) — October 14-15 LINK
We also had 6’3” guard Curtis Givens III on campus earlier this month. Givens is currently ranked #54 in the class of 2024. Hopefully we can land two or three of these guys to go along with whoever we bring in from the portal.
Billy Richmond (6’6" SF – #33 class of 2024) — September 8-10 LINK
Rakease Passmore (6’5' SF – #49 class of 2024) — September 22-24 LINK
Nic Codie (6’8" PF – #57 class of 2024) — September 22-24 LINK
Ryan Jones, Jr. (6’8" PF – #65 class of 2024) — September 22-24 LINK
Mikey Lewis (6’3" SG – #61 class of 2024) — September 23-24 LINK
Micah Robinson (6’7" SF – #92 class of 2024) — September 23-24 LINK
Pharaoh Compton (6’7" PF – #85 class of 2024) — October 14-15 LINK
We also had 6’3” guard Curtis Givens III on campus earlier this month. Givens is currently ranked #54 in the class of 2024. Hopefully we can land two or three of these guys to go along with whoever we bring in from the portal.
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:37 am to tigersham
No excuses now with the ncaa investigation over. Time to pearchase again
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:42 am to tigersham
Please be good. Please be good. Please be good.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:06 am to tigersham
MCMahon gonna need at least 3 full cycles to get LSU BB where it needs to be. Be patient with him and he'll deliver. He's another character hire.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:55 am to tigersham
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Hopefully we can land two or three of these guys to go along with whoever we bring in from the portal.
I believe Mcmahon has stated that his goal is to get 4 in the 2024 class. The goal is clearly to get away from having to take 5+ in the portal each year
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:10 am to PureBlood
If he's TRULY a character hire, we are DOOMED.
I think he was a lazy, incompetent hire. I DESPERATELY want to be wrong about that. I want LSU to win like they did for most of Dale's tenure, and would have FOR ALL of the general's tenure.
If you or others think we aren't still paying under the table to our football players/families even under nil, just wow!!
BK has the luxury of the infrastructure being set up to illegally induce these guys to come to LSU. Wade obviously didn't have that same perk.
Recruiting is a cutthroat business. If you don't dance all over the rules, you have ZERO chance of being competitive.
Psst!!! Don't tell anybody else, but coach Gay at Puke, Self at KU, Cal and Pitino WHEREVER they've been, hell any successful coach anywhere, run FILTHY programs.
You cannot win without doing so. Period. Stop.
If this offends anyone's set of ethics, I would suggest you not watch big time college athletics (football and men's basketball).
There are plenty of examples in today's college landscape, especially in men's basketball, that show a team can be turned around IMMEDIATELY if the coach has the skill set to do it.
I am positive that if Wade had inherited what Eminem did last year, you can bet your arse he would have been at least in the NIT, and maybe even in the NCAAs.
I think he was a lazy, incompetent hire. I DESPERATELY want to be wrong about that. I want LSU to win like they did for most of Dale's tenure, and would have FOR ALL of the general's tenure.
If you or others think we aren't still paying under the table to our football players/families even under nil, just wow!!
BK has the luxury of the infrastructure being set up to illegally induce these guys to come to LSU. Wade obviously didn't have that same perk.
Recruiting is a cutthroat business. If you don't dance all over the rules, you have ZERO chance of being competitive.
Psst!!! Don't tell anybody else, but coach Gay at Puke, Self at KU, Cal and Pitino WHEREVER they've been, hell any successful coach anywhere, run FILTHY programs.
You cannot win without doing so. Period. Stop.
If this offends anyone's set of ethics, I would suggest you not watch big time college athletics (football and men's basketball).
There are plenty of examples in today's college landscape, especially in men's basketball, that show a team can be turned around IMMEDIATELY if the coach has the skill set to do it.
I am positive that if Wade had inherited what Eminem did last year, you can bet your arse he would have been at least in the NIT, and maybe even in the NCAAs.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:29 am to tigahlovah
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he was a lazy, incompetent hire
People say this a lot, but can you explain how he was a lazy hire? He may be the wrong hire, not a good major program coach, not a good recruiter, etc. But at the time he was hired, he was widely considered the best mid-major coach available. Just don't see how it was a lazy hire, especially considering every other SEC program that had an opening went for him as well
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There are plenty of examples in today's college landscape, especially in men's basketball, that show a team can be turned around IMMEDIATELY if the coach has the skill set to do it.
And for every example of someone that "turned it around immediately" there are 2 examples of someone it took longer for. Look at Woodwards last basketball hire in Buzz Williams. Took over a program that was in very poor shape. First two years, Buzz went 16-14 then 8-10. They are now picked to finish top 3 in the SEC this year, and thats without Buzz recruiting very well.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 8:39 am
Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:43 am to PureBlood
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MCMahon gonna need at least 3 full cycles to get LSU BB where it needs to be. Be patient with him and he'll deliver. He's another character hire.
Doesn't work like that anymore hoss. Especially with NIL and the transfer portal. Texas and OU also coming in, LSU is in serious danger of being left behind even further in the SEC
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:09 am to tigersham
Isn’t 4-star PF Robert Miller III supposed to visit September 8-10 as well?
His dad, Robert Miller II, played football at LSU so there is at least some connection there. Texas is the overwhelming favorite right now though.
His dad, Robert Miller II, played football at LSU so there is at least some connection there. Texas is the overwhelming favorite right now though.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:13 am to tigers32
Yeah he will be visiting Sept 8-10. One thing that I find interesting is that On3 reports that he has already taken visits to LSU and Colorado and visited Texas unofficially. So LSU and Texas will be the only places he has visited more than once, and LSU will be the only place he has taken multiple OV. Not sure it means anything other than hinting that it might come down to those two
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 9:14 am
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:26 am to tigers32
Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:42 am to tigersham
I can't remember from past recruiting classes, but 9 visits in a little over a month seems like a bit more than usual. I'm guessing they're taking advantage of football game days before the season actually starts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:58 am to Aforem7
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MCMahon gonna need at least 3 full cycles to get LSU BB where it needs to be. Be patient with him and he'll deliver. He's another character hire.
I hate to break it to you, but it's not 2018 anymore. The transfer rules have completely changed the game, and stacking HS recruiting classes is not how rosters are built anymore. Case in point, 50% of McMahon's first signing class is already gone. That's not a knock on McMahon. That just the way college basketball is now. It's not out of the realm of possibility that even if LSU has a good season this year that they will go into next season with only 1 (maybe none) of that first signing class on the roster. Coaches have to be able to get returns from their HS players in 1-2 years. It's not a "building process" any longer.
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I'm guessing they're taking advantage of football game days before the season actually starts
Absolutely (Wade did too, as do the coaches for every other sport on campus). The campus and city is never more "alive" than on the weekend of a home football game. If you are trying to sell the school/atmosphere, that is the time to do it. Having a guy in for a visit on a cold weekend in January while he attends a half-full PMAC is not exactly appealing
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:44 pm to Aforem7
You're right. It isn't fair to say McMahon was a lazy hire. He was actually successful, and it was rumored a few other SEC schools tried to hire him. As down as I am about him being the coach, I SWEAR I'm pulling for him, because I want LSU to win. We should be the second best program in the SEC in men's basketball and we need to get back to that and stay there.
I guess the problem I have is that we should have kept Wade, so I look at McMahon in a harsh light. I stand by my assertion that Wade would have been way more successful last year than McMahon was. Hell, he inherited as bad or worse of a program from JJ, and we saw how competitive we were in his first year.
Your second point doesn't move me as much. You say that for every good example you can show me two bad ones. Well, it's Woodward's job to hire one of the coaches in the top 33% of the hiring pool, or better yet, grow a pair of nuts and keep the coach we currently had who by all accounts was gonna stay here for years, and would have had us in the tournament yearly. Odds are, we would have had some deep runs mixed in, and LSU basketball would be a hell of all lot more fun than what we're staring at now.
I guess the problem I have is that we should have kept Wade, so I look at McMahon in a harsh light. I stand by my assertion that Wade would have been way more successful last year than McMahon was. Hell, he inherited as bad or worse of a program from JJ, and we saw how competitive we were in his first year.
Your second point doesn't move me as much. You say that for every good example you can show me two bad ones. Well, it's Woodward's job to hire one of the coaches in the top 33% of the hiring pool, or better yet, grow a pair of nuts and keep the coach we currently had who by all accounts was gonna stay here for years, and would have had us in the tournament yearly. Odds are, we would have had some deep runs mixed in, and LSU basketball would be a hell of all lot more fun than what we're staring at now.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:08 pm to Aforem7
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I believe Mcmahon has stated that his goal is to get 4 in the 2024 class. The goal is clearly to get away from having to take 5+ in the portal each year
That's backwards IMO. He should want to build through the portal early to get out of the dumpster then through HS recruiting once the program has found some footing.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:09 pm to tigahlovah
I agree with you on the wade part. He had our program in a good place from a competition perspective. The only point I was trying to make with my second point is that the success of a coach shouldn't necessarily be determined off of his very first season because there are multiple instances of coaches who have poor first seasons but are able to improve once they get momentum. Not saying that's necessarily the case with Mcmahon, but I'm hoping like hell that it is not bc I just love mcmahon but because I love LSU basketball
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:14 pm to saintsfan22
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That's backwards IMO. He should want to build through the portal early to get out of the dumpster then through HS recruiting once the program has found some footing.
We are now two seasons in of having a team almost completely of transfers who have limited eligibility left. At some point you have to start building up your recruiting classes
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:29 pm to Aforem7
The some point is when you've gotten out of the dumpster, which we haven't. Also, hs recruits might as well be viewed as having limited eligibility now because they're going to transfer at the drop of a hat.
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