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LSU’s class if Bussey committed

Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1182 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:38 pm
Does anyone know how much LSU’s 2024 class would go up if he joins our current list? I have to admit, I have been critical of the class, but it’s overall ranking doesn’t seem that far behind the schools in front of them not Bama, OH ST and Georgia.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:47 pm to
You can use the class calculator on 247 to examine any scenarios you like then compare them against current class rankings but you would be basing your comparison on assuming no other teams get any additional recruits. Really hard to predict what it would do to this class compared to others until closer to esd when most recruits are really committed

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Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10471 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:54 pm to
LSU currently has the 13th ranked class on 247.

If we add Dre'lon Miller, we move up to 9th.

If we add Miller and Bussey, we move up to 4th.



Posted by oj
Member since Dec 2012
190 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:03 pm to
Doesn’t matter where it’s ranked. They not filling needs in the secondary and defensive front
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1182 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:05 pm to
Thanks, I am a member of 247 and never thought it to use it, my dumb arse. Man, so #4 if we flip Bussey and Miller? That makes me feel way better about this class.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2476 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:05 pm to
Yes they are. I wish people who don't shite about recruiting would stop making statements like they're factual. They're not.

If you think we're bot gonna add any more defensive backs or Dlinemen, come back for your crow on both ESD and NSD.
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1182 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:06 pm to
It is kind of mind boggling how we have not landed any defensive tackles
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1182 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:09 pm to
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you think we're bot gonna add any more defensive backs or Dlinemen, come back for your crow on both ESD and NSD.


This class is shaping up to be a pretty damn strong class, I can’t recall having that many linebackers and secondary recruits coming in. We going to have some talent to develop at corner and safety
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11555 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:09 pm to
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It is kind of mind boggling how we have not landed any defensive tackles


It isn't when you realize LSU doesn't have a DL coach
Posted by LSUTitan99
Member since Jun 2023
1479 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:11 pm to
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It isn't when you realize LSU doesn't have a DL coach



We should have put him in an analyst role and hired an actual coach like we did with Kragthorpe in 2011
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1182 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

It isn't when you realize LSU doesn't have a DL coach


True, but not a single tackle for 2 consecutive classes, unless the kid from Westgate is one. You’d think they’d have took more guys last year, but they did bring in JJ, Shand and Lee.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6205 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:20 pm to
I didn’t realize signing period was over. What day did all our guys sign?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30304 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 4:31 pm to
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Doesn’t matter where it’s ranked. They not filling needs in the secondary and defensive front




What do we need that we are not signing? 3 edge, 1 DL, 3 CB, 2 S. 2 of the edge guys and the DL are 3* but at least one of those I have seen and he is pretty darn good, looks better than a 3* to me. CB & S are all 4*

Posted by BengalBen
Midwest
Member since May 2008
2223 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 5:00 pm to
Pretty sure On3 rankings are based on average player ranking for the class. So, we have the #1 ranked kicker in the country but because of his low ranking, he drops us several spots. Makes no sense.

Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12388 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 5:45 pm to
Edges, I'm assuming, are Cobbins, Jackson and Breaux? Jackson is the only true edge long term. Cobbins is a tweener who is an edge skilled kid without edge size. Was originally recruited as a true LB until we missed on everyone. Breaux is not an edge.
The DL is Johnson, who apparently only Lindsay sees the upside in and Breaux who is a SDE/DT rotational type guy. He too a version of a tweener. Neither move the needle for me.
The CBs are Bates who's on flip watch, Johnson who will be transitioning from hs qb, and Foster whose greatest asset is his recruiting and motivational skills.
No complaints about S. Both are good prospects.
Need another true edge, a couple of true DTs, maybe a SDE. Lose Bates and you have no CB that can logically be expected to contribute immediately or above 50% on the boom bust ratio. Causey wouldn't change that.
Miller is a WR, Bussey a jack of all, master of none that is likely a S/nickel or yet another WR. They help rankings but not needs(though talent is a need). Of course you take them and there's time to fill the other spots but the prospects that seem to be available to us dont inspire confidence in success. Gap fillers taken out of desperation not want.
Unless we expect to suddenly become flush with NIL money and are gonna buy all the TAM kids we only lost due to money from what I hear constantly on our boards. The logic in that scenario is there according to the water cooler but very difficult to see outside our vacuum. We are about to get the bargains of the year I suppose. The graciousness of these kids to leave all that money on the table. Strange behavior for kids just a couple of months ago accused of being greedy for chasing the bag. I truly admire the mental gymnastics it takes to rationalize it. Skillful indeed.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:42 am to
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Doesn’t matter where it’s ranked. They not filling needs in the secondary and defensive front


Can’t understand why you are getting so many downvotes. You are exactly correct when we have almost no CB and DT talent in this class right now, which are LSU’s biggest needs. Instead people will slobber over a meaningless ranking just like they did with Miles and Orgeron.
Posted by LSUTitan99
Member since Jun 2023
1479 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:44 am to
Transfer portal exists
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:45 am to
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If you think we're bot gonna add any more defensive backs or Dlinemen, come back for your crow on both ESD and NSD.


So no matter the quality, as long as they get some recruits labeled as “CB” or “DT”, you will be happy? I am not even talking about stars here but players with potential to have an immediate impact.

Relying on the portal to fill significant holes in the team and without the support of high school recruits for the long term will do nothing to make LSU a real title contender.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9368 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:38 pm to
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I am not even talking about stars here but players with potential to have an immediate impact.

Relying on the portal to fill significant holes in the team and without the support of high school recruits for the long term will do nothing to make LSU a real title contender.

You realize that the players actually likely to have “immediate impact” are probably in the portal, right?

If your sole definition of filling the roster need is high school recruits who are day 1 starters, then you might be a tad unreasonable.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9368 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

We should have put him in an analyst role and hired an actual coach like we did with Kragthorpe in 2011

Hard to hire a permanent DL coach in August.
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