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Lorando Johnson?

Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16835 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:49 pm
Was smoke end of last year about looking around and now we are after his teammate. I know it says he is committed but whats the story on this guy
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
3294 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:55 pm to
Didnt someone say grades were somewhat of an issue?
Posted by Mando
Boston
Member since Dec 2019
573 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 2:56 pm to
Who?
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12388 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:02 pm to
Grades and he was pushed out. Now was he pushed because of grades? I have no clue but insiders don't expect him in the class qualified or not.
I don't agree with the decision but I haven't agreed with a couple of the decisions made. The coaches have chosen who they've chosen and I'm good with that. Johnson is the perfect Nickel for our defense which it doesn't seem there is one in the class. Maybe McGlothern is that guy. I just believe Johnson is better but maybe the grades risk moved the needle away from him.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27244 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:07 pm to
I don't see mcglothern as a nickel
Lorando Johnson looked good inside but yeah idk the story on why he didn't make it in.

Is it a definite though?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42626 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:23 pm to
McGlothern reminds me more of a Tharold Simon/Jalen Collins type player.

He may end up at S but that athleticism will play at LSU

Great ball skills.
Technique probably needs a lot of work but most CB's need that coming in to college - the rare exception is someone like Stingley who showed up ready
Posted by WVtiger
West Virginia
Member since Dec 2019
420 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:24 pm to
If we don’t get him I would hope we at least offer Kaufman
Posted by TexasTiger24
Houston
Member since Feb 2019
2308 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:51 pm to
Keep him and tell him to bring his fellow Lancaster teammate Kevontre Bradford with him!!!
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39359 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:02 pm to
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Technique probably needs a lot of work but most CB's need that coming in to college - the rare exception is someone like Stingley who showed up ready

No, Stingley is a good example of a guy whose technique needed (and still needs) lots of work. Stingley is having a massive year, in spite of his poor technique, because coaches are too stupid to focus on his weaknesses, and because he is such a great athlete he can cover up technique problems.

Florida exposed Stingley’s poor technique in press coverage. He does not stay in his backpedal long enough. Instead, he quickly gets his hips turned so he can start running with the receiver. The problem with that is if you turn too soon the receiver has the option of crossing to the DB’s back side. What Stingley should be doing is staying in his back pedal until the receiver commits to a side. This forces the receiver to turn a little out of vertical. At that point the DB can turn, and his own body prevents the cross to his back side. Stingley has the speed to do this; he’s just not doing it because it’s unnatural and has to be drilled.

Another example of this is the bomb to CeeDee Lamb that beat Stevens. Stevens left his back pedal early (this was not press coverage) and this allowed Lamb to get deep without giving ground to the sideline. All of that room on the sideline is what beat Stevens. If A DB stayed in his backpedal Lamb would have to pick a side, and the Db could turn across the receiver’s path forcing him out of a straight route. If he chose the sideline the DB can force him towards the sideline where only an elite throw beats him. Now, Stevens was put in a tough spot with space all around him and no help. He didn’t stay in his backpedal because Lamb would have blown past him. This was a mismatch, so no blame to Stevens. This was on the coaches and the scheme. But there’s no mismatch with Stingley, and no excuse, besides youth, for giving up on the back pedal too soon.

I bet Stingley has that part of his game fixed for next year.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1791 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:07 pm to
Damn this is a really good explanation. Thanks for the writeup.
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:19 pm to
I agree with you lsuva.

I hope that the insiders are wrong again because of the following:

1. Lancaster is a good recruit producing area/school and starting a pipeline/relationship would be a good thing.

2. Lorando is a perfect type for slot corner if his academicly eligible or becomes eligible.

3. Bradford is the running back that I prefer if we are going to miss on Gibbs.

Side note - Even though Northshore is an LSU pipeline so to speak in the Houston area Evans would not be a take if I was Coach. Jmo.
Posted by beef42
Thy
Member since Feb 2009
826 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:28 pm to
What an idiot???? Has zero clue about football and technique. I actually laughed at his description of stingley
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12388 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:03 pm to
Agree about McGlothern, think he's a S for us not nickel. That's why I don't understand the thoughts about Johnson. Johnson was recruited as a nickel and is perfect for it.

Not sure if it's a definite but insiders say they don't expect him in the class qualified or not. Not sure what the deal is. Considering we play nickel almost exclusively it would seem they'd want one in the class.
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

No, Stingley is a good example of a guy whose technique needed (and still needs) lots of work. Stingley is having a massive year, in spite of his poor technique, because coaches are too stupid to focus on his weaknesses, and because he is such a great athlete he can cover up technique problems.

Florida exposed Stingley’s poor technique in press coverage. He does not stay in his backpedal long enough. Instead, he quickly gets his hips turned so he can start running with the receiver. The problem with that is if you turn too soon the receiver has the option of crossing to the DB’s back side. What Stingley should be doing is staying in his back pedal until the receiver commits to a side. This forces the receiver to turn a little out of vertical. At that point the DB can turn, and his own body prevents the cross to his back side. Stingley has the speed to do this; he’s just not doing it because it’s unnatural and has to be drilled.

Another example of this is the bomb to CeeDee Lamb that beat Stevens. Stevens left his back pedal early (this was not press coverage) and this allowed Lamb to get deep without giving ground to the sideline. All of that room on the sideline is what beat Stevens. If A DB stayed in his backpedal Lamb would have to pick a side, and the Db could turn across the receiver’s path forcing him out of a straight route. If he chose the sideline the DB can force him towards the sideline where only an elite throw beats him. Now, Stevens was put in a tough spot with space all around him and no help. He didn’t stay in his backpedal because Lamb would have blown past him. This was a mismatch, so no blame to Stevens. This was on the coaches and the scheme. But there’s no mismatch with Stingley, and no excuse, besides youth, for giving up on the back pedal too soon.

I bet Stingley has that part of his game fixed for next year.





I mean... where to start.

First, the play on Stevens. The ball was perfectly thrown and as far as I'm concerned, Stevens played it well and had outstanding coverage. Any tighter and he might have gotten a PI. Bottom line is that it was excellent coverage, especially considering he's more of a LB than a safety and he was covering Lamb.

There could be a thousand reasons to explain certain things with Stingley... and it is NOT poor technique. The mere fact that he is one of the highest rated CB's in the country, along with Fulton tells me they are playing that way because of SCHEME. And the lengthy explanation you provided mentioned not a single word about scheme, which informs me that you are some amateur trying to explain things.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 7:22 pm
Posted by jayboy504
Harvey
Member since Dec 2011
893 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

He does not stay in his backpedal long enough. Instead, he quickly gets his hips turned so he can start running with the receiver. The problem with that is if you turn too soon the receiver has the option of crossing to the DB’s back side


No disrespect to your post but that’s not necessarily true... What you’re saying regarding what DS jr. is doing by flipping his hips too soon is actually perfectly fine.. In the event DS Jr flips his hips too soon and the receiver crosses his backside the DB is taught to “Speed turn” and that’s just if the receiver crosses his backside the DB just completely turns his body all the way around and he is still in position to make a play on the ball
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27244 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:56 pm to
I think they will try mcglothern at corner first and then safety.
And not nickel, but outside corner
And to penrod about stingley.
You say he starts turning and running to soon but Florida was killing him on back shoulders.
Van Jefferson is a technician

I don't think is just going to go and change his technique
That must be how Raymond wants him to back pedal and turn
Posted by beef42
Thy
Member since Feb 2009
826 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:21 pm to
Pernod is a freaking idiot. Zero clue about football besides a jr. High level
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