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re: Interesting details about Tory Carter new 2017 FB recruit

Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by CajunPowah
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:15 pm to
Look, I'm going to explain this to you as nicely as possible, leave the thread man, its really as simple as that.

I'm here to actually talk with people that have at least a semi understanding and knowledge of LSU football, and its quite apparent that you dont.

You would rather exchange insults than talk football, so just leave the thread.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Flanders
Bham
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:20 pm to
Shutup. Boot
Posted by CajunPowah
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:23 pm to
Take your 12 year old arse and 8,000+posts off this board forever man, and never comment on a thread I create ever again. You aren't welcome on threads I make.

This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 5:27 pm
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:44 pm to
Its amazing to me that people still question LSU recruiting. I quit doing that when we couldnt run the ball and needed OL.Miles signed another DB that year and he. was even smallish to go along with the 15 we already had.
I was in here whining had too many DB's and not enough OL.
His name was Mathieu.
Posted by CajunPowah
Member since Jan 2016
374 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:50 pm to
Mathieu ended up being what you could call a generational talent, even in the NFL they realize this guy can be something extremely special.

He is a rarity, in that he can play any position in the Defensive backfield and excel at CB, FS, or SS.

He is on the small side for a SS, but he could play the position, and do a very good job. I dont think there is another player with the ability to be as good at all 4 defensive backfield positions as he can be. If there is, I cant think of them at the moment.

He wasn't highly recruited either, and that just shows that you cant measure what is on the inside of somebody, some guys have it, and some guys dont, but there wont ever be a quantifiable way to ever really measure that.

We will end up with a very good recruiting class regardless of what the recruiting sites say.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:17 pm to
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What I'm not too keen on is us taking yet another FB.

Moore is a junior, Mouton and Ducre sophomores. Did we really need a 4th scholarship FB for next season?

i agree

it's bad enough that we rely on FBs, but to spend so many schollies on them is foolish
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68439 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:20 pm to
I guess it depends. Plenty of guys don't pan out at other positions, what if we missed out on a good fb because we took a wr that never plays and transfers.

Injuries happen, you look up and you are down to 3rd string rb. Maybe a guy like ducre gets carries at rb in a scenario like that. shite happens. It's how Ridley got on the field.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421743 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:21 pm to
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All those FB's can move to other positions if they aren't getting the job done at FB.

not really

FBs are the lowest rank on the totem pole. if they had value at other positions, they'd play the higher-valued spots

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68439 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:27 pm to
I just dont see this as an issue. IF they want to run, why not recruit to the strength of that?

This isnt going to be a either him or a 5*. this would be like we take this guy instead of russell gage, kevin spears, foster moreu or anyone we gave one to at the last minute because they had room.

BTW foster moreau got pt last year. Smith and Gordon were hurt throughout the season. And I bet you guys say the same shite about tes.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59077 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:37 pm to
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They were freshmen. I dont think that's a good excuse to have 4 scholarship FBs on this team at once. Hell at one point last year they were working out 5 or 6 scholarship guys at FB. that's ludicrous.



plus this idea that offense fell off a cliff when Moore got hurt is over rated but to the extent it did, speaks to the problem. Moore didn't play vs A&M or TTU and the running game was just fine.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59077 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 7:40 pm to
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what if we missed out on a good fb because we took a wr that never plays and transfers


really? we could play that stupid game all day. Look at the depth at DL, LB lately. Also while we are giving scholarships to other low value positions like kicker and long snapper, we've struggled at the most important position in part due to poor/under recruiting.

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this isnt going to be a either him or a 5*. this would be like we take this guy instead of russell gage, kevin spears, foster moreu or anyone we gave one to at the last minute because they had room.


Then you can wait until November-January to offer him like you did with all those guys you mentioned.
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BTW foster moreau got pt last year. Smith and Gordon were hurt throughout the season. And I bet you guys say the same shite about tes.


Depends on how many TEs are on the roster and are you really going to the depth/injury argument here? Have you noticed we've had concerns on the DL/OL and LB, oh and the most important position on the field. What do you figure hurts team more? Being down to the 3rd string TE or having to play fricking underclass QB's? Having a back up FB play or no depth on the DL?
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 7:46 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421743 posts
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:55 pm to
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And I bet you guys say the same shite about tes.

no

TEs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FBs
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37355 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:55 am to
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I don't need to re evaluate shite prick, you're free to move on from the thread anytime you like.

If your going to give smart azz remarks, prepare to receive them in return.

If you want to discuss LSU football then we can do that too, your choice.


I feel like I'm teasing a child right now. Thanks for the entertainment, bud. Don't mature.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8720 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:30 am to
Never know. This kid could be another Jacob Hester. That would be fn' awesome. A major part of what made Hester special was his heart and determination. Not saying he will be in the same league as Hester, but he seems to have the attitude for it.
Posted by muddbone
nola
Member since Nov 2013
1133 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 7:18 am to
thanks man
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:57 am to
We've got one of the best talent evaluation staffs in the country. I trust them on this one.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47794 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:00 am to
Can't argue with some of these yahoos.
They know way more than our staff.
Posted by Earthquake
USA
Member since Nov 2007
974 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:53 am to
I don't understand how anyone can complain about this signing. The kid is a good football player these are the type of kids that make up the backbone of your team, not all players are going to be superstars, you need some grunts to get in there and be hard nose.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59077 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:11 pm to
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I don't understand how anyone can complain about this signing


it is a lower value position that we have adequate depth at already.

quote:

he kid is a good football player these are the type of kids that make up the backbone of your team, not all players are going to be superstars, you need some grunts to get in there and be hard nose.


I am not questioning the kid or even the evaluation of his talent. but the position. it is lower value and not one we need. You need the types of players you are talking about at DL, DE, OL etc, that's where you win titles, not having the "best" FB.
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