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re: IMG vs American Heritage

Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5530 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:38 pm to
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I went there until 6 years ago
And they didn't have a football program then.

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IMG hasn't changed its philosophies since 1970 when it opened as a tennis academy despite picking up 10 other sports.
For someone who claims to be the expert about IMG Academy, you don't seem to know very much.

First, IMG Academy did not open in 1970.

Second, IMG did not open the tennis academty. Nick Bollettieri did. And he did it in 1978.

Third, Nick Bollettieri was not an agent. He was a tennis instructor. There is a fundamental difference in the relationship between an agent and a coach.

Fourth, IMG bought Bollettieri's academy in 1987. Now, ask yourself this very FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION: why do you think a sports marketing firm would buy a tennis academy?

Fifth, perhaps the "philosophies" changed when Bollettieri, the tennis coach, sold the place to IMG, the sports marketing agency.

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Adding football won't change that


Of course not. There are no handlers or uncles or dollars involved in recruiting football players to colleges.

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What the frick does this even mean?
Try reading it again.

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your understanding and mental picture of how IMG academy is set up and operates is so piss poor that it's not even possible to correct that.
I am VERY well aware of how recruiting occurs. I don't give a rat's arse about how IMG is set up or operates. I don't care about what happens on that campus. I am talking about what happens with recruiters and what happens at college campuses.

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I don't recall recruits using those words in the mid-2000s.
ooookkkkk bud
If you have not recognized the wholesale change in recruit's focus then you have not been paying attention.

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It is completely untrue. Hate to break that to you big guy
You may know everything about mid-2000s IMG Academy, but I sincerely doubt that you know ANYTHING about Ole Miss's 2013 recruiting class and their motivations for committing to Ole Miss, big fella.

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Yea, I'm sure that I don't know what I'm talking about when I attended the school for 4 years, have multiple connections that still go there, stay in touch with their alumni resources, and go to their sporting events regularly and listen firsthand to what people have to say. Where do you fricking idiots even come from? I think I understand how my own high school works and I think that most people can't even begin to fathom what the culture is like there, so kindly shut the frick up and keep your dumb opinions on the current state of recruiting and hearsay "facts" to yourself


Oh, you get SO mad when someone questions your knowledge of the place where you used to go to school before they had a football program.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 2:47 pm to
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Third, Nick Bollettieri was not an agent. He was a tennis instructor. There is a fundamental difference in the relationship between an agent and a coach.
Just out of curiosity, how many agents currently hang around IMG currently on a daily basis? I know the answer, do you?
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Fourth, IMG bought Bollettieri's academy in 1987. Now, ask yourself this very FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION: why do you think a sports marketing firm would buy a tennis academy?

Fifth, perhaps the "philosophies" changed when Bollettieri, the tennis coach, sold the place to IMG, the sports marketing agency.
What does that have to do with the fact that I went there as recently as 6 years ago? The "sports marketing firm" was in full swing when I went there. Nothing has changed since I left and that's coming from more than a few people that I regularly talk to who currently go there
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Of course not. There are no handlers or uncles or dollars involved in recruiting football players to colleges.
What does this have to do with your claims that IMG is steering kids to Ole Miss or that Ole Miss is somehow more affiliated with IMG and has a better shot at recruits than LSU? Every college has "handlers", this has nothing to do with IMG or the way it operates
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I am VERY well aware of how recruiting occurs. I don't give a rat's arse about how IMG is set up or operates. I don't care about what happens on that campus. I am talking about what happens with recruiters and what happens at college campuses
Explain the whole process then, in great detail, and explain why exactly students from IMG academy are more apt to go to Ole Miss than LSU
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If you have not recognized the wholesale change in recruit's focus then you have not been paying attention.
You don't understand the thought process that went into committing to a school in 2000, 2005, 2009, 2011, 2012, or 2015, so shut the frick up and stop pretending that you understand how IMG teaches elite prospects to pick a college
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You may know everything about mid-2000s IMG Academy, but I sincerely doubt that you know ANYTHING about Ole Miss's 2013 recruiting class and their motivations for committing to Ole Miss, big fella.
at this dumbass trying to spin himself into having some kind of inside info on a bunch of Ole Miss commits from 2013 that had absolutely nothing to do with IMG. The level of misinformation that you're spreading is legitimately ban worthy FYI, that's how far you are from being remotely correct about anything that you've said in this thread
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Oh, you get SO mad when someone questions your knowledge of the place where you used to go to school before they had a football program
There's nothing to question. I still regularly talk to people that are involved with IMG and I know exactly what's going on there. Yea, it pisses me off when a moron like you is so desperate to sound knowledgeable or like an insider that you'll spread false information to just to get attention. You're pathetic and you need to stop talking now
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5530 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 3:18 pm to
You know what? I was wrong. I apologize.

However, when I made this statement, I did not know I was wrong:
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I am not doubting your personal history.
And then I did a little checking.

So let's examine your story, just a smidge:
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What does that have to do with the fact that I went there as recently as 6 years ago?
It's 2015, "6 years ago" would be 2009. Okay, you went there as recently as 2009.

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I went there for 4 years in the mid 2000's
LINK So you went there for 2003-04, 2004-05, 2005-06, 2006-07. I though you went to school there in 2009?

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That's completely false. I went there from 2010-2011 and the academics were a big "selling point" to my parents but I literally never went to class and I still had good grades.
LINK

Well, now this definitely contradicts the whole "as recently as 2009" because you would have said "as recently as 2011." It contradicts the whole "mid 2000's" too.

Oh, and by the way, "I went there from 2010-2011" means you only went there for one year. So was it four years in the mid-2000s or one year from 2010-2011?

It must get exhausting keeping track of this stuff and your off-and-on high school career spanning from 2003-2011 that lasted for one to four years.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 3:58 pm to
:crickets:
Posted by Olddawg
Shreveport Louisiana
Member since Apr 2014
198 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 4:14 pm to
Well that escalated quickly....
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47562 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 5:53 pm to
I am no authority on IMG but the fact is it's not Calvary Baptist or basically any high school. If the purpose is to prepare kids for college, and they live like it's college, things will happen like it's college.

A LOT of kids hear about what fun college is and count the days until graduation. Shea got to basically go one year early. Good for him. Maybe he just wasn't that motivated to keep playing high school football.
Posted by CT3
Member since Apr 2013
559 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 6:26 pm to
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Wow, that coach must really suck...all that talent and they lost..nice!
They are coached by Steve Walsh former university of Miami quarterback and played in the nfl most notably with the Cowboys and Saints.

Also didn't help that they said linebacker Roshaun Smith had a bad game to go with IMG not having Shavar and Saivion not playing as well.
Posted by CT3
Member since Apr 2013
559 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 6:30 pm to
Shea and his dad are kinda flaky anyways. They transfered schools 3 times from Hidalgo to Calvary and from Calvary to IMG. Transfered 7 on 7 teams twice and his dad had OM boosters fun his current 7 on 7 team. Cause the bootleggers wouldn't kiss Shea or Sean Sr's butt. Changed his committment twice in picking colleges from Arizona to OM. Now has changed his mind about all-star games multiple times went from the Army game to the UA game, to changed his mind last week and play in the Army game again.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 6:47 pm to
I did go during the 2010-2011 school year. I went post grad for a year and left out the other 4 years because I didn't want everyone that I grew up with knowing who I was at the time considering there was only 1 other person from Louisiana in my grade. It's incredibly obvious that I actually went there when you read my ton of posts, I know shite about the place that no one else does. If you need to go back to a half truth I posted 6 months ago to feel like less of a dumbass then you need to get a life does anyone talking about IMG academy/ Pendleton high school care that I trained post grad in 2010 and went to a completely different campus for school to develop more before I made a career choice? Not really, it's irrelevant so I leave it out.

And in response to you claiming that I'm lying because I said "mid 2000's" once, yea, I'd consider 2005-2009 mid 2000's. But really, deflect from the fact that you're a clueless moron
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 7:03 pm to
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If the purpose is to prepare kids for college, and they live like it's college, things will happen like it's college.
You don't live like it's college. I was mainly talking about your "unsupervised dorms" post, there are dads paying $100k+ a year for their daughters to go play tennis, not get pregnant. If you get caught having sex at IMG you're expelled and the dorms, especially the girls dorm, are heavily supervised. It's not like a free for all olympic village where you can have sex as much as you want wherever you want with no consequences. Like yea, people have sex at IMG, but it was honestly more trouble than it was worth and it was pretty much the only way to get immediately expelled without any chance of it not happening
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66924 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 9:30 am to
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They are coached by Steve Walsh former university of Miami quarterback and played in the nfl most notably with the Cowboys and Saints.

Also didn't help that they said linebacker Roshaun Smith had a bad game to go with IMG not having Shavar and Saivion not playing as well.


I thought Walsh was the Football Director and Kevin Wright was head coach, but I could be mistaken.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65870 posts
Posted on 8/29/15 at 6:21 pm to
I was really looking forward to watching the game next week with IMG traveling to DeSoto, TX to play..

but DeSoto is getting absolutely abused by unranked Martin
Posted by Speys and Tays
Member since Dec 2014
340 posts
Posted on 8/30/15 at 1:04 pm to
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by Caddo
Shea had nothing to gain by going to IMG other than status and an ego thing for his dad.


The whole situation makes him look bad. Bad fit in a system where he has been for just a few weeks. Bad teammate for disposing of guys had played with for three years.
The age of free agent high school players is here and much like the AAU basketball farces the game will be worse because of it.
This post was edited on 8/30/15 at 1:07 pm
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 8/30/15 at 1:21 pm to
IMG is playing right now on ESPNU fyi

Drake Davis took the opening kickoff back, and Shea just tossed a TD
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Apr 2009
10171 posts
Posted on 8/30/15 at 1:27 pm to
4* Barrow has been the guy for IMG.

Mirarmar is grossly outmanned.
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