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re: If you were to hire two new coaches with recruiting in mind, who would they be?

Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Trips360
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:21 am to
Coach o
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:22 am to
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I'm going to ask a pretty obvious question, but if we can see the changes are needed and see these guys available, why won't it happen???

Stubbornness, falling asleep at the wheel, slow to react, convince yourself everything is ok, loyalty to guy you brought in, etc
Posted by Rayvegas1484
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:22 am to
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Ed Orgeron and Jabaar Juluke



This
Posted by Captain Ron
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:23 am to
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loyalty to guy you brought in


Miles is loyal to a fault.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:23 am to
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would he fit with Frank?
He coached under Frank at Karr. Very close.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:24 am to
Frank and Jabar could be a dynamic duo tag team.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:26 am to
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Just don't think Miles and Athletic Dept think the same way, and not sure why.


because don't look at the situation through "fan glasses". Their job is to bring the best class possible in by the end of signing day, and more than likely it will be one of the best ever, if not the best, for LSU.

Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:27 am to
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I'm going to ask a pretty obvious question, but if we can see the changes are needed and see these guys available, why won't it happen???
Very reactionary, no proactivity. Usually takes Les two years of bad to make it good.
Paveto-Mallory- 2 years of no D
Stud-Krag-2 years of no O
Recruiting- ???
Posted by panterica
Member since Jun 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:28 am to
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and John Gruden.


Did anyone catch when he said that if he decided to coach again, he would want to do it as LSU's RB coach? He said it during the game.
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:30 am to
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Stubbornness, falling asleep at the wheel, slow to react, convince yourself everything is ok, loyalty to guy you brought in, etc


Yep, hear you, but it doesn't explain that when things start going worse than expected, how no changes get made - got to stay on top and keep working. Can't lose ground and come back easily. I would/ do have a sense or urgency. Must produce, so if someone isn't, they need to pick it up. Loyalty only goes so far in a job situation.
Posted by Linkovich
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:38 am to
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Rob Sale to replace Stud as OL coach.



He could lock up N. La
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12404 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:41 am to
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Did anyone catch when he said that if he decided to coach again, he would want to do it as LSU's RB coach? He said it during the game.


Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6433 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:41 am to
I think Jabaar leaving is significant in the Kaar kids decisions. We need him on the staff.
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2153 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:46 am to
By Juluke getting some college experience at La Tech, it would make the transition that much easier..Frank would support it, as mentioned they are pretty close...There are folks posting here I suspect know how big he is in High School coaching circles....Home Run!!!
Posted by itig19
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:04 am to
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Ed Orgeron and Jabaar Juluke


This x 1,000,000
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:45 pm to
Come on cinci,

Malleveto only lasted one year, miles is loyal to his assistants which allows him to hire people like chavis and Cameron, not just stooges, like another well known coach. He couldn't have been proactive about stud kragthorpe because he could have never seen a disease coming. There was nothing wrong with the 2011 offense save for the 1/9 game. He did a great job reacting to those problems.

He also is sending brick to northla which is already helping. Give him a chance to fix it before you claim he did nothing.

I agree 1000 percent something obviously needs to be done. The sec continues to build an arms race for recruiting and we have to do our part to stay ahead of the curve. I think jj is an excellent idea
Posted by cheeser
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:05 pm to
satan and satan
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Must produce, so if someone isn't, they need to pick it up. Loyalty only goes so far in a job situation.


Must produce, on what side? Hell, the development of our WRs was outstanding, and Henry and Haley lost Brown. Do we suggest a good WR coach and a great DL coach are replaceable?

Frank coaches a helluva a stable of RBs and got goosed yesterday. Do we run Frank?

I think everyone needs to pump the breaks, there is more at play than ever. The world is not scary, social media keeps everyone connected constantly. Elite recruits are away from home ALOT and get used to being away. It is the world we live in.

I will take great coaches who are good recruiters and beat the hell out of flash in the pan recruiters who cant coach a down. We have that now.

Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:12 pm to
No one is proposing getting rid of any of the people you named.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:14 pm to
Who are they proposing goes with all this must produce or go talk.
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