Goodrich?

Slow played him for foster

Getting him would of lessen the blow of losing Surtain

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People will wonder why we keep losing 4 games a year

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If people are wondering that when Ed O is our HC then I'm not sure what to tell them.

Coach Raymond and O were burned by Surtain family. If they would have told the coaches this weekend Mario would be a tiger

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burned by Surtain family

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There is always an element of getting burned in these last minute decisions. The jilted bride is left at the alter.

The safe bet, bird in hand decision would have been to accept the Goodrich commitment.

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There is always an element of getting burned in these last minute decisions. The jilted bride is left at the alter.

The safe bet, bird in hand decision would have been to accept the Goodrich commitment.

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yep. If you have confidence in your ability to coach them up and utilize them (a.k.a. gameday coaching/scheming) you take a Goodrich, be happy, and let he chips fall where they may regarding Surtain.

Bama had very similar situation regarding depth chart. Bama took 4 CBs (3ea 4* and 1ea 5*). Surtain is the 5*; one of those is Savion.

So if the Staff went with the idea of if they accepted Goodrich's commitment because of 'scaring away Surtain', it was both a dumb strategy (didn't consider what ifs vs extreme consequences at the position) and a bad mentality. LSU needs to be more ruthless in it's recruiting, not buying into narratives (scaring players away) that leaves you completely exposed. That was a change from the late-Miles years that I expected to happen; it obviously did not.

I have almost as much problem with holding the spot for Foster and passing on Goodrich. Foster gave every indication he was going to FSU after his visit. He went to a conference foe in TAMU. Nothing in the perception or where he decided to go to said LSU. IF Goodrich did say he wanted in, and they declined for Foster having a commitment vs. negative info, that's just wishful thinking and 'hope', not good decision making.

We couldn't control Saban's negative recruiting OR what the Surtain's did. We COULD control our own actions and 'what if' contingencies. We gave that up.

Totally mismanaged. Greatest position of need and your only going to take one? Should not have been in this position with so few schollies left to have to choose btw him and Foster. When Goodrich wanted to commit I would have called Surtain or Foster and asked them to commit or else give the schollie to Goodrich. The man is over a $100 million empire and gets played by 17 year olds.

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So if the Staff went with the idea of if they accepted Goodrich's commitment because of 'scaring away Surtain', it was both a dumb strategy (didn't consider what ifs vs extreme consequences at the position) and a bad mentality. LSU needs to be more ruthless in it's recruiting, not buying into narratives (scaring players away) that leaves you completely exposed. That was a change from the late-Miles years that I expected to happen; it obviously did not.

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Orgeron is too emotional to be in charge of this. He should've known something was wrong when we couldn't get an early signing day commitment. He has to run this like a business.

Assess your risk with certain recruits and plan accordingly. Trust shouldn't even enter into it. Be prepared for a recruit burning you and don't be left empty-handed. Recruits are into business for themselves so the school might as well take the same approach. Saban gets burned, Jimbo gets burned, every coach gets burned on these issues. The difference is those guys plan for it.

I'm surprised that someone that's as skilled at recruiting as O thinks he is doesn't approach it in this manner.

All the whinning about Surtain etc and the other crap that LSU is feeding reporters is nothing more that deflection tactics to try appease whatever part of the fan base they can appease.

Pointing the finger at Alabama and the Surtain's is easy because most of the LSU fan base rightfully can not stand Alabama. The real issue is beating Alabama outcoaching Alabama and outrecruiting Alabama which We/Coach O have failed to do so far.

Own it in order to Fix it.

Not confident that Coach O can do it because he appears to be emotionally based and reactionary.

We will see.

My hope is that he can.

I don't give a rats arse what the coaches name is or where he is from or the players either for that matter.
I am an LSU alumni and LSU Fan not a Coach O fan or qb X fan.
Do your jobs as coaches and players win your positions and play like you care putting the Team first.

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Really, once Surtain took the OV to Bama, Goodrich should have taken priority.

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what SHOULD have happened was not taking so many 3 stars in the early signing period. take 2 less 3 stars early and we would have had plenty of room and Goodrich would be in BR.