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re: Good recruiting has to happen before winning championships, not the other way around

Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5287 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Clemson's previous 4 classes before the 2016 championship avg 12.75 Michigan's avg was 10.75 before this season You continue to show you have no idea what you are talking about


Once again, recruiting is not just about recruiting rankings. Sometimes it’s about actual talent evaluation and finding the diamonds in the rough.

Clemson’s roster was absolutely loaded, won them two national championships, and sent tons of guys to the NFL. That supersedes any recruiting rankings that were assigned to them at that time.
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
2899 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:08 pm to
upvote for a decent rant
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5004 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:23 pm to
quote:


Once again, recruiting is not just about recruiting rankings.


Yet you were the one on here talking about how Kelly needs to recruit top 5 classes all the time
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30107 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Nick Saban was consistently recruiting in the top 5 at LSU.


Not really. In his last two seasons, 2003 & 2004, he was top 5. 2000-2002 his best year was #15 I believe.

So he probably would have continued that based on what he did at Bama but that is pure speculation.

Take a look at Clemson before winning their first Natty and subsequently. Their recruiting stepped up considerably post NC1.

Recruiting is a big part of winning championships and seems more and more important every year. But winning also helps recruiting. It's a yin and yang thing.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2465 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:07 am to
"Some men, you just can't reach."
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
6464 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:30 am to
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Yep. Not really the point of this post though Hopefully you actually read it and your reading comprehension didn’t fail you.


It’s absolutely the point of your post. Are you joking? Do you think that your post is considered hard reading?? It wasn’t. You are trying to tell us that we need to recruit at a high level to win championships. We know that. Groundbreaking stuff.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:44 pm to
You don’t say!
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Yet you were the one on here talking about how Kelly needs to recruit top 5 classes all the time


Obviously Saban's top 20 classes were great because they were 20 years ago and the hardware exists.

Meanwhile Kelly's top 5 classes are trash because............I dunno.

Rummy smacked this idiot OP down on page 1 and he still started another thread on it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66412 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:16 pm to
well… I like last years class and this years class.

so maybe the coaches know this too
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5326 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:44 pm to
Uh?!?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39131 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 4:41 pm to
The thing is that none of us will know when the great recruiting happens, just as none of us knew at the time that our seventh ranked 2017 class was the best in the country. And none of us knew, in 2001, that Saban was recruiting so well.
Posted by schuetter
Member since Jan 2022
17 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 9:30 pm to
Your other thread wasn't an appropriate place for this? You sure think highly of yourself while looking down on us simpletons, buddy. Making a statement doesn't equate to having wisdom. Two things can be true at the same time, but go on feeding your football ego and showing everyone how much you think you know.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89490 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:12 am to
quote:

If you’re incapable of seeing that we’re recruiting at an extremely high level, you’re blind.


Without question, recruiting is on a fairly significant uptrend. The problem - as always - with LSU recruiting is that there always seems to be a glaring hole. It was tough, for the longest time, to get QBs, offensive tackles and, to a lesser degree, interior DL and linebackers. LSU has, historically, been blessed with more options at corner, receiver, running backs, IOL, edge rushers and TEs than needed.

Under Kelly, OL recruiting (and development) has been well above our historical trend, particularly at tackle, plus the quality and depth at QB. What has shocked longtime fans is the utter lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball. And what high grade talent that is there, it does not appear to be developing. Now, we have had a complete overhaul of the coaching staff on that side of the ball.

quote:

And it’s not just acquiring the talent, it’s developing it - something LSU has historically done as well as any school.



Are Harold Perkins and Mason Taylor playing better than they did at freshman? Are we developing talent? Now, to be fair, we clearly weren't developing talent under O - basically they left the same player they showed up as (possibly excepting JB9).

So, can I be happy about the upswing in recruiting and the defensive coaching staff changes and still not wear purple and gold glasses and notice the lack of defensive talent?
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 8:14 am
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5287 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:56 am to
This sure is getting a lot of attention for a thread that supposedly was terrible.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5287 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Without question, recruiting is on a fairly significant uptrend. The problem - as always - with LSU recruiting is that there always seems to be a glaring hole


Correct. The last recruiting class looked really good on paper except that DT wasn’t really addressed in the strongest way.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13009 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:16 am to
quote:

I’m not referencing the way LSU is recruiting right now, which is actually at a really high level. I’m just addressing a general concept.


So you admit that the thread is completely unnecessary?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79123 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Correct. The last recruiting class looked really good on paper except that DT wasn’t really addressed in the strongest way.
ok but how do you know that if you're not looking at recruiting rankings, which is your premise
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13009 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Wrong. Both of Clemson’s national championship teams were absolutely loaded with talent. This year’s Michigan team had a good bit as well. You never win big if you don’t have the horses. Good recruiting and high recruiting rankings are not the same thing. Sometimes finding low-ranked diamonds in the rough is part of good recruiting


Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13009 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:26 am to
quote:

The problem - as always - with LSU recruiting is that there always seems to be a glaring hole.



This skank was the last “glaring hole”

Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5287 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:49 am to
quote:

This skank was the last “glaring hole”


And you accuse ME of putting stupid, useless, pointless information in threads? Lmao

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