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re: ESPN: Responsible Journalism or Hack Piece?
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:24 pm to DocJerome
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:24 pm to DocJerome
i won't call it responsible journalism or a hack piece. it was a sensational piece about a part of CFB that many people don't understand
you know who is feeling the effects of NOT over signing this year (and last year)? USC
i doubt ESPN really delved into that comparison, however, as ESPN really doesn't like to get past the surface of CFB
you know who is feeling the effects of NOT over signing this year (and last year)? USC
i doubt ESPN really delved into that comparison, however, as ESPN really doesn't like to get past the surface of CFB
Posted on 12/19/10 at 8:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'd say it was some serious agenda pushing by someone with an ax to grind with the SEC.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 9:04 pm to BilJ
i admittedly haven't seen the piece, but oversigning is a part of CFB, and i just love how USC has shown why (and people don't understand it). but it wouldn't shock me if big10 people did push this. they're assholes about recruiting "the right way"
Posted on 12/19/10 at 9:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a sensational piece about a part of CFB that many people don't understand you know who is feeling the effects of NOT over signing this year (and last year)? USC i doubt ESPN really delved into that comparison, however, as ESPN really doesn't like to get past the surface of CFB
Very true.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 9:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
At one point they even did a direct big 10 vs. SEC comparison. I mean c'mon. It was obvious.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 9:54 pm to BilJ
LSU players stand behind Les and says he takes care of them and some rogue player that never got it at the most needed position for the team wants to spread lies on ESPN? Miles let Phelon Jones go play at Bama by releasing him of his scholarship, but is going to screw over Garrett? This had nothing to do with over signing. Garrett had to do with work ethic. Garrett makes JRuss look like a hard worker.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i admittedly haven't seen the piece, but oversigning is a part of CFB, and i just love how USC has shown why (and people don't understand it).
USC can thank a lack of institutional control and the paying of athletes while there by outsiders. Their struggles have nothing to do with not oversigning SFP. All it shows is if you're going to cheat, don't get caught. According to you, it is a reason to oversign kids though.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 10:51 pm to LSUMafia
Hack piece and there is 1 exceptional reason why.Garrett's scholarship had nothing to do with oversigning.We carried less than 85 scholarship players this year.There's absolutely no truth to the story that his release had to do with oversigning.Once again ESPN runs a story without checking facts.All about sensationalism.If they would factored the story on Porter(instead of just a small blurb)then they would have had the right example for the oversigning issue.This was a complete hack piece for the sole reason that they used Garrett as an example of oversigning.Ridiculous and another reaon i don't trust anything ESPN says unless it's confirmed other places.Someone,somewhere needs to knock them down a little notch to give them some perspective back.Too bad it's not going to happen.
Posted on 12/19/10 at 11:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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you know who is feeling the effects of NOT over signing this year (and last year)? USC
I have been following the program for a very long time and I can't recall a year when USC has ever offered more scholarships than we had to give.
It's wrong to do that to kids IMHO.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 6:45 am to LSUMafia
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USC can thank a lack of institutional control and the paying of athletes while there by outsiders. Their struggles have nothing to do with not oversigning SFP. All it shows is if you're going to cheat, don't get caught. According to you, it is a reason to oversign kids though.
USC's current problems have very little to do with the sanctions (obviously they will down the road) and everything to do with Carroll signing classes that were way too small and then giving excess scholarships to walkons. If you have a class or two that doesn't pan out and some attrition, you're left in the situation USC is in with no depth, which wouldn't have been the case had Carroll taken larger classes and signed like everyone else does
Posted on 12/20/10 at 6:55 am to usc6158
So you are telling me the mass transfers have had no effects on this year's team and next years? That is what it has more to do with rather than just a lack of not signing full classes.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 6:59 am to LSUMafia
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So you are telling me the mass transfers have had no effects on this year's team and next years? That is what it has more to do with rather than just a lack of not signing full classes.
None of the guys who transfered are impact players. Other than Malik jackson, basically none of them did anything of note this year and wouldn't have had any impact on USC's performance this year.
USC's slide in play was decided with Carroll's recruiting choices over the past 4 years
This post was edited on 12/20/10 at 7:04 am
Posted on 12/20/10 at 7:43 am to LSUMafia
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USC can thank a lack of institutional control and the paying of athletes while there by outsiders. Their struggles have nothing to do with not oversigning SFP. All it shows is if you're going to cheat, don't get caught.
um
USC hasn't even felt any of their penalties yet, other than not getting to play in a bowl
what are you trying to say?
Posted on 12/20/10 at 7:45 am to LSUMafia
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So you are telling me the mass transfers have had no effects on this year's team and next years?
dude USC's talent level on D was pretty putrid...in 2009. before any transfers may have hit the program
USC recruited small classes
if you recruit small classes, you better hit on pretty much every kid. if you miss, then you have nothing at that position
USC got highly-rated "star" classes, but they didn't get good players, and they have no backups due to not oversigning
so USC trots out a bunch of not-good kids, esp on D
Posted on 12/20/10 at 7:55 am to Derrick
frick ESPN they have had an agenda to hurt LSU since Miles made Herbie look like the dick head docuhe that he is.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 7:57 am to TigerFanNKaty
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frick ESPN they have had an agenda to hurt LSU since Miles made Herbie look like the dick head docuhe that he is.
sure pal
if you want to argue regional bias (esp with the big10, where a large # of their analysts/reporters representing as slumni), then that's a legit argument. if you want to argue big market bias, then that's a legit argument.
don't make a fool out of yourself, brah
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
brah believe what you want I'll beleive what I want. ESPN has agendas and they will play them out. The article in this case it not based on all the facts and is meant to hurt Miles and LSU any way it can. Brah.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:38 am to TigerFanNKaty
What would you have liked Miles/LSU rebuttal to be? Yeah we had to cut the kid he had little to no work ethics,He gained to much weight has terrible foot work. We missed evaluated the kid we had to let him go. We needed his schooly for another player that could possibly contribute to the success of this team. He was not the guy we thought he was. We signed him based on him doing certain things when he got here he didn't live up to his end of the agreement.
Now tell me how would any of these rebuttals helped LSU cause? Of course Les was not going to respond.
Now tell me how would any of these rebuttals helped LSU cause? Of course Les was not going to respond.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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ESPN really doesn't like to get past the surface of anything
Fixed it for you SFP. That Pony Excess 30 for 30 was pathetic. It just glossed over James and Dickerson receiving cash.
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