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re: Did we move forward or backward with this class?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:59 am to nitwit
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:59 am to nitwit
damn nitwit, you need to change your name. you are actually quite bright. 
boy did we ever. this part of the class was amazing.
that's my concern and it has little or nothing to do with missing on just Sophser. I hope we really rack up next year.
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we restocked our skill positions, including RBs, DBs and WR's which have been historic strengths.
boy did we ever. this part of the class was amazing.
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But we did not significantly improve our haul of top OL or DL. One top player for each.
that's my concern and it has little or nothing to do with missing on just Sophser. I hope we really rack up next year.
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:03 am to LSU GrandDad
So you agree with this:
And...
You agree with this:
Summary of what you believe:
We knocked it out of the park with RB, DB, WR.
With OL or DL, we improved, but not significantly. Certainly, nothing written about regression.
And you question whether or not we moved BACKWARD?
Do you see how ridiculous this was? Much better way you could have worded it.
quote:
we restocked our skill positions, including RBs, DBs and WR's which have been historic strengths.
And...
You agree with this:
quote:
But we did not significantly improve our haul of top OL or DL. One top player for each.
Summary of what you believe:
We knocked it out of the park with RB, DB, WR.
With OL or DL, we improved, but not significantly. Certainly, nothing written about regression.
And you question whether or not we moved BACKWARD?
Do you see how ridiculous this was? Much better way you could have worded it.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:03 am to LSU GrandDad
LSU definitely got better as a result of this class.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:05 am to Festus
We got four DL and five LB in this class. Last year we got 4 DL as well. This year, Clemson got 5 DL and last year they got five DL. They seem to be able to beat Alabama. We're fine. However, we do need to start coaching the kids up to compete with Alabama's OL. I like the direction we're heading. No, we didn't get EIGHT DL in this class, but not too many other programs did either, if at all.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:05 am to LSU GrandDad
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I think it's O's biggest problem
quote:My, you have a dizzying intellect. ;-)
I do not think it's O's fault tho
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:07 am to tlsu15
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Truth is, we stayed the same.
We are better at DB...Stingley.
We are better at in the punt return game...Stingley.
We are better at RB...both Emery and Davis.
WR's to be determined. Did not go backward.
Kicking game to be determined but it's difficult to go forward when replacing Cole Tracy. IMO Cade York will do the job and do it well.
Interior OL...did not go backward.
If Ray Parker moves to OT (where he should be) we will move forward bigly.
LB's it's difficult to not go backward when the number one LB is leaving your squad but we won't go backward that much. The LB haul is excellent.
People think we have gone backward on the DL but I believe we will be pleasantly surprised with Evans and Ika and the two DE's, Fonua and Little. One more 4 or 5 star here on the DL and everyone would have a totally different opinion of the 2019 DL haul.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:09 am to LSU GrandDad
Valid question when sometimes emotion or a miss clouds objectivity.
we had one "miss", Soppy of course, at a position of need. And with everybody coming back I wouldn't call it urgent need. It was a upgrade need, the real need with be next year. And it is debatable if Soppy would have been a true upgrade; only time will tell.
Where we had true immediate need- CB and RB, we hit home runs.
We did fall flat on some "pipeline needs": OT and DE/DT. But did extremely well on others: QB, S, OG, NT
So this was a pretty big step forward. Not a leap, more of a hop. But it damn sure wasn't backwards and better than your average step.
we had one "miss", Soppy of course, at a position of need. And with everybody coming back I wouldn't call it urgent need. It was a upgrade need, the real need with be next year. And it is debatable if Soppy would have been a true upgrade; only time will tell.
Where we had true immediate need- CB and RB, we hit home runs.
We did fall flat on some "pipeline needs": OT and DE/DT. But did extremely well on others: QB, S, OG, NT
So this was a pretty big step forward. Not a leap, more of a hop. But it damn sure wasn't backwards and better than your average step.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:09 am to GumboPot
I pretty much agree with this. Disappointed in the lack of depth on the DL and with OT but otherwise fantastic class.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:13 am to lsualum96
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five LB in this class
Our LB haul was so strong we didn't even pursue 4* Christian Harris who bama offered and he is their second best LB in their class. Aranda just had LB prospects that were higher on LSU's board than Harris.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:15 am to Festus
If you want to say O "knocked it out of the park" on RB, DB and WR you have to acknowledge that Les Miles did so pretty consistently (and under O those positions got thin). These are great recruits but we aren't moving forward given stellar historic recruiting here.
No real improvement on the OL and DL recruiting.
Thank goodness for Ika.
No real improvement on the OL and DL recruiting.
Thank goodness for Ika.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:17 am to RATeamWannabe
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Disappointed in the lack of depth on the DL and with OT but otherwise fantastic class.
These areas will have to be addressed next year. Thank God La has a lot of DL talent in 2020.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:33 am to nitwit
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If you want to say O "knocked it out of the park" on RB, DB and WR you have to acknowledge that Les Miles did so pretty consistently (and under O those positions got thin). These are great recruits but we aren't moving forward given stellar historic recruiting here.
No real improvement on the OL and DL recruiting.
Thank goodness for Ika.
When you think of going backwards or forward and you look at this recruiting class and its impact on the entire team as a whole where do you believe we improved or gotten worse? IMO that's how this class should be judged.
If I had to score our position groupings on the team and include this 2019 class as compared to last year were a -3 is backwards, a 0 is stays the same and +3 is going forward I'd score it as follows:
Special Teams: 0 (about the same b/c the loss of Tracy but we get Stingley)
-Punting: 0
-Punt Return: +1
-Kick off: 0
-Kick return: 0
-Place kicking: -1 (only because a great one left)
Offense: +1 (we are better because more depth at qb, better rbs and Burrow and WRs are more familiar with the system)
-Interior line: 0
-Tackles: 0
-Tight End: -1
-Wide Receivers: +1
-Running Backs: +2
-Quarter back: +1
Defense: +0.25 (slight team improvement)
-Defensive Line: 0
-Line backers (as a group): 0 (it's hard replacing a great one but we have really good ones filling in)
-Corners: +1 (we are better despite losing Greedy IMO)
-Safety: 0
We will be a better team next year and this 2019 recruiting class will contribute.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:37 am to GumboPot
quote:that's one thing most of us in this thread are forgetting. If York is what we think he is, that's close to being a 0.
-Place kicking: -1 (only because a great one left)
And staying the same at that position is damn good. The difference between 2-3 wins vs. losses
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:53 am to LSU GrandDad
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instead of a personal attack, I urge you to consider my question and give an objective response (to the question, not to your dislike of me).
LSU took a very large step forward with this class. The reality is that it does suck that they missed on a guy that may not see the field in a while to Alabama, a kid that didn’t make the grades to Auburn.
Anyone that says this class moved backwards is completely blinded by their disdain of the coaching staff. They have they’re own view and there’s no changing their mind over it.
quote:. That you were so insanely wrong about that to this day, you avoid any Astros conversation.
person. I guess you are still butt hurt about some comments I made several years ago
Go Astros.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 11:55 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:57 am to Festus
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With OL or DL, we improved, but not significantly. Certainly, nothing written about regression. And you question whether or not we moved BACKWARD? Do you see how ridiculous this was? Much better way you could have worded it.
thank you for not calling me "you people"
and yes, PART of my question was whether or not we moved backward. but, I also asked if the board thought we moved forward or STAYED THE SAME.
also, I guess I could have worded my question differently. but a question, esp. one with 3 possible answers is not a statement of opinion or fact. i'm sorry (and surprised) it was so ill received by some.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:11 pm to nitwit
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If you want to say O "knocked it out of the park" on RB, DB and WR you have to acknowledge that Les Miles did so pretty consistently (and under O those positions got thin).
I don't HAVE to do any such thing. I never argued anything regarding that. I'm simply responding to the OP. Which is "Did we move forward or backward with this class".
Concentrate on that sentence, nit. And tell me, do you think it's reasonable to infer that there's even a chance that this class MOVED US BACKWARD. Not didn't help us, or kept us the same. BACKWARD.
Answer that question please.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:14 pm to LSU GrandDad
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I agree. but we signed one 4 star Defensive lineman and basically one 3 star guy.
Evans is going to surprise alot of people. Quiet shy kid that didn't do alot of the camp stuff and committed early. I'm expecting big things out of him.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:19 pm to LSU GrandDad
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thank you for not calling me "you people"
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i'm sorry (and surprised) it was so ill received by some.
It's simple. Discussing areas where we excelled in the class, and areas where we could have done better, is a legitimate discussion.
Speaking for myself, and probably others, today is a day where we finished with somewhere between the 3rd and 5th best signing class in the entire country. It's difficult to understand someone starting a thread including a question in the OP of whether we might have actually moved backward as a team. That's all.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:28 pm to bigjgotigers
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If Braford, Thomas, and Ika can get down to around 320-330 we landed three monsters in the trenches
Completely agree, and factor in Parker gaining about 15-20 lbs in the next 6-12 months and we may be right where we need to be.
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