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re: A&M offered Melvin jones for football and will allow him to play baseball
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:15 am to TigerAlum93
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:15 am to TigerAlum93
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To those that say their offense will not do well in the SEC, that you have to run a pro style vs. spread, I seem to recall both Florida and Auburn winning a national championship with the spread.
cannot compare the two, both Florida and Auburn used a power running spread which bad basically a spin off of a wing t, with the qb being another ball carrier. A&M's spread passing attack has yet to do well against an SEC defense. A&M spread isn't UF or AU's.
there is also no Cam or Tebow in college station.
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Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:15 pm to Alan Garner
To be fair, West Virginia did the most damage of any team to LSU's defense last year (533 yards total offense, 463 yds passing), and we will run a very similar offense with better OL, RB, and WRs. What will make or break us is good decision making by our QB and redzone offense. It's hard to say exactly how our offense will fare against SEC defenses, but I think it can be successful with the right personnel.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:16 pm to StrickAggie06
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and we will run a very similar offense with better OL, RB, and WRs.
1st year installed offenses usually aren't as successful as you want them to be.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:41 pm to StrickAggie06
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:43 pm to Prominentwon
True, but I was referring more to the next several years. However, West Virginia did that to LSU in the first year of that offense with a new coaching staff and at the beginning of the season.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:47 pm to StrickAggie06
quote:And still got blown out...at home.
West Virginia did that to LSU in the first year of that offense with a new coaching staff and at the beginning of the season.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:47 pm to jocvh
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Next time do your research before coming over here and declaring your players better.
You might want to read my post again. I said our players were better than West Virginia's NOT LSU's. To that point, I won't say our OL is better but it IS comparable, whatever you want to believe. If Brandon Williams gets his waiver, it's the same at RB, as we would have 3 5* RBs on the roster plus 4* Ben Malena, who did well when he started the last 2.5 games of the season. They are different types of RBs than what LSU has, but the talent level and depth is similar.
ETA: nice edit.
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:55 pm to StrickAggie06
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ETA: nice edit.
I still think there offense last year was better than your will be this year for one reason. QB. You want to be considered a top 10 offense, you have to have a great college QB.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 1:08 pm to jocvh
Fishhead,
As opposed to who? The only team LSU didn't blow out last year was Bama. Newsflash: your team was pretty damn good last year. West Virginia doesn't have a defense and turned the ball over 4 times. My only point was that their offense worked. Ya'll crushed Arky, the 3rd best team in the SEC and #1 offense 41-17 and they had almost 300 yards less than West Virginia.
That's definitely the question and what will determine if we have a successful season or not. We have some talented QBs, but completely inexperienced. They will need to be able to play well starting the first snap of game #1.
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And still got blown out...at home.
As opposed to who? The only team LSU didn't blow out last year was Bama. Newsflash: your team was pretty damn good last year. West Virginia doesn't have a defense and turned the ball over 4 times. My only point was that their offense worked. Ya'll crushed Arky, the 3rd best team in the SEC and #1 offense 41-17 and they had almost 300 yards less than West Virginia.
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I still think there offense last year was better than your will be this year for one reason. QB. You want to be considered a top 10 offense, you have to have a great college QB.
That's definitely the question and what will determine if we have a successful season or not. We have some talented QBs, but completely inexperienced. They will need to be able to play well starting the first snap of game #1.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 1:35 pm to TigerAlum93
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A+M is recruiting Louisiana hard, and Melvin's recruitment is proof. I see them doing well with recruiting and in the SEC
They are probably going to get the guys who MSU, Ole Miss & Tennessee have been getting over the last four or five years. They have been sharing these guys with these teams. Now that they are in the SEC, they should get all of them.
Good move for them and the kids. The kids will get more exposure, be close to a city and have the opportunity to get a good degree. If they want to study & get a degree, they will get good work upon graduation. As a Louisiana kid working in Houston after graduation would be fine with me.
If I wasn't offered by LSU, an A&M offer would be the next best thing.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 2:00 pm to StrickAggie06
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West Virginia doesn't have a defense and turned the ball over 4 times
That was the norm against LSU's defense. Every team LSU played turned the ball over like that. Oregon had four turnovers too. You guys turned it over four times when we last played. Remember all of the, "Well if Tannehill hadn't had his worse game" comments you guys made? It wasn't his bad game, that's the norm against the LSU defense.
Giving up yardage the way the LSU defense did against WVU is a byproduct of the aggressive play in the LSU defensive backfield. It's not expected but it can happen. I don't mind it because the turnovers will come if a team keeps putting the ball in the air. When my dad is bitching about the defense giving up a 15 yard pass in the first quarter, I'm over yelling, "Keep putting it up, please."
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 6/18/12 at 2:03 pm to chinese58
All I've gathered from this thread is that aTm wants to be West Virginia and lose by three touchdowns to LSU at home.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 2:20 pm to Tiger Authority
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All I've gathered from this thread is that aTm wants to be West Virginia and lose by three touchdowns to LSU at home.
but the offense "worked"
Posted on 6/18/12 at 3:20 pm to skullhawk
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All I've gathered from this thread is that aTm wants to be West Virginia and lose by three touchdowns to LSU at home.
There are games we're expecting to lose, and we get that. However, things happen on Kyle Field that are just unexplainable. The fans are going to turn out against LSU, and we're going to expect to lose. Our time will come, but not next year.
When you talk smack, keep this in mind: There was a time not too long ago when LSU had six straight losing seasons, and proceeded to get their butt wooped in Kyle Field.
Teams are rising and falling every day in America.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 3:27 pm to chinese58
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That was the norm against LSU's defense. Every team LSU played turned the ball over like that. Oregon had four turnovers too. You guys turned it over four times when we last played. Remember all of the, "Well if Tannehill hadn't had his worse game" comments you guys made? It wasn't his bad game, that's the norm against the LSU defense.
Agreed, the LSU defense makes those plays, which is why I pointed out how crucial QB decision making will be to the offense's success.
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but the offense "worked"
Considering they put up more yards and points on LSU than any SEC offense, yes, I would say it worked. Their QB forcing a couple of throws and some fumblitis prevented more points from being scored (also credit to the defense), but what if they had a defense as good as simply Miss St who held you to 19?
Is that offense going to hang 30+ on a typical LSU defense? No, but it can move the ball and give the team a chance to win as long as there is solid defense to accompany it. Of course, this isn't really about LSU, I just used that game as an example. The only point I was trying to make is that if that type of offense can move the ball and score against the LSU defense, than it should fare well against the non-elite defenses of the SEC as long as you have solid QB play and a good offensive line.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 3:34 pm to StrickAggie06
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West Virginia did the most damage of any team to LSU's defense last year (533 yards total offense, 463 yds passing), and we will run a very similar offense with better OL, RB, and WRs.
I think A&M is a sleeping giant.
with that said, i don't like that offense. If you are going to put the ball in the air 50 times, you are going to turn it over multiple times against a good defense.
yes, w/v got yards on lsu. however, they turned the ball over a lot and got beat bad. you look at all the teams that have run that style of offense, i think of only one time of them beating a top team. Texas tech on a phenom play. why? there's not balance and the good teams will create turnovers.
the best offense, regardless of style, is a balanced one. what is lost with Au and Florida when they ran a spread, they were running teams. ball control, low turnover.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 3:35 pm to Theyus
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When you talk smack, keep this in mind: There was a time not too long ago when LSU had six straight losing seasons, and proceeded to get their butt wooped in Kyle Field.
Teams are rising and falling every day in America.
I'm not talking "smack." I'm simply stating that aTm can't rely on throwing the ball 50 times a game and winning in this conference consistently IMO. Acting like you're better at quarterback when you just lost your last starter and Geno Smith is coming back is asinine. They are better than you offensively. Period. And we'll be better offensively IMO than we were last year.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 3:43 pm to StrickAggie06
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Their QB forcing a couple of throws and some fumblitis prevented more points from being scored (also credit to the defense), but what if they had a defense as good as simply Miss St who held you to 19?
Then they would have played in the NC and not us. As it stands the two best programs in the country and league are now in your division and we play tough defense and run the ball effectively. You can win by running different offenses but throwing the ball 65 times and running for a total of 70 yards won't win you the conference in the SEC.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 3:53 pm to Tiger Authority
Agreed. I seriously doubt we will be passing 50-60 times a game though. Sumlin has repeatedly said that we will run the ball and that the offense won't be run exactly like it was at Houston. We have much better RBs and OL than Houston, so it's only common sense that we will run the ball more.
Also, no one ever said we were better at QB than WVU this year. Right now QB is a question mark. We could have a very good QB this year or it could be a disaster; we won't know until the season starts. That being said, Showers looked quite good in the Spring, so here's hoping he follows that up by playing well this fall. Long term, however, it shouldn't even be a question, as our QB recruiting>>>>>>>>WVU's.
Also, no one ever said we were better at QB than WVU this year. Right now QB is a question mark. We could have a very good QB this year or it could be a disaster; we won't know until the season starts. That being said, Showers looked quite good in the Spring, so here's hoping he follows that up by playing well this fall. Long term, however, it shouldn't even be a question, as our QB recruiting>>>>>>>>WVU's.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 3:56 pm to StrickAggie06
The strength of your offense at this stage would seem to me to be running the football considering the OL and RB and inexperience at quarterback.
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