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There is nothing like good plumbing work

Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:22 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61682 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:22 am
Hired a guy to come in a few weeks back to connect my outdoor kitchen. Just had to run a gas line to my flat top, plumb in the sink and I asked him to install a hose bib on the side of the kitchen so I could occasionally connect a short hose and add water to my pool

Yesterday, I had a ground fault trip and I needed to reset the breaker so I crawled under to reset it. Found this gem. This is the pipe running to the hose bib.

I just sit there and looked at it for 5 minutes in disbelief. This guy was super nice and came highly recommended.


Pride in your work is just a thing of the past.



Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14792 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:10 am to
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6984 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:27 am to
mind sharing his name? I had someone come out that was highly recommended by this board and he did minimal work
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
4388 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:54 am to
I used to feel like a dick for checking behind people’s work before grabbing the checkbook; that sentiment has long since passed.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
895 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:03 am to
GD if that's the standard I need to go sign up for tech school and undercut these losers.

WOW
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 8:04 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61682 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:32 am to
quote:

I used to feel like a dick for checking behind people’s work before grabbing the checkbook; that sentiment has long since passed.



You and me both bud. I swear I just want to believe in people but at some point I am going to learn. I will buy a few 90's today and fix this myself. I will feel better about it in the end.

I have to admit, when I looked under there, I first laughed at the fact that one of the doors on my outlets is open and one of them is closed. All before I laughed at the water line being 1 inch from the outlet.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27414 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:52 am to
The electrician who wired my house looked like shite and left a solid 20 budweiser cans all over the house. I checked behind his work and it was the finest residential wiring job I had EVER seen.

I tried to stop judging a book by its cover. But give me a gruff old bastard over some constantly smiling prick any day.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54265 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:47 am to
Why is a plumber so expensive?
Because they're damn well worth it.

The problem these days is that even the shitty ones are expensive.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36074 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:37 pm to
Well. If he glued it he did better than the guy that built my place.

Had to change out an outdoor faucet (sillcock) last weekend that was leaking. Climbed under the house and went to cut it so I cut put on a new threaded coupler to screw the hillock into. The old coupler just came right off when I started messing with it.

How the hell it didn't leak at the coupling for 20 years I don't know. It was wedged in between the wall where the sillcock was screwed in and a pipe that was teed off going down ...so it couldn't slide back and forth much, but still....
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 12:39 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61682 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:43 pm to
20 years? Maybe the glue melted. LOL.

The guy that did mine was just lazy. He knew better. Just didn’t GAF.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3258 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 3:14 pm to
After multiple failed electrical and plumbing installs by multiple highly recommended contractors when I first moved into my house, I decided that I was smart enough to learn how to diy this kind of stuff.

Since then I have done the following:

Completely replumbed my kitchen sink/dishwasher/under sink RO, replacing a bunch of 3/8 poly piping and an existing RO system that costs me $425 just to replace filters.

Ran 13 cat6A drops

Added 5 outlets for tvs to hide wires

Installed a generator inlet plug from my main panel to an exterior wall with lockout in panel per code

Added 3 exterior soffit outlets for Xmas lights tied to the same light switch as my porch lights.

Installed a complete landscape lighting system in my front yard.

Plumbed in a quick connect NG connection at my gas meter to connect a portable generator.

Hung 3 ceiling fans

I have probably saved myself 10k just by putting in the time to learn, and buying 1k in tools.

Best part is now when shite breaks instead of waiting for and paying some guy to fix it. I just fix it myself
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30029 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

There is nothing like good plumbing work


thats obviously not up to code and insurance will not cover you if someone gets hurt since it will be called intentional negligence safety hazard.

but dont be too hard on the guy, he didnt have the money (about $1.50) to buy those four 90s to run it where its safe
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61682 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

thats obviously not up to code and insurance will not cover you if someone gets hurt since it will be called intentional negligence safety hazard.



Yea, I am repairing it tomorrow myself. I just dont want him back out here working on my house


Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36074 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

20 years? Maybe the glue melted. LOL.


I assume unless someone changed it along the way. I've only owned it 5 years.

Didn't melt though, lol. The inside of the coupler was as smooth as the day it was made.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30029 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Yea, I am repairing it tomorrow myself. I just dont want him back out here working on my house


dont make an easy mistake, make sure you have a helper outside to make sure the hose bid is straight when you glue it back together. you cant always tighten it more because sometimes its fully seated, so dont make that mistake.

if you dont have a helper, mark the pipe with a sharpie so you know it stays where it is and doesnt get turned when regluing it
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 5:33 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61682 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:02 pm to
My hose bib is connected to the outside of the kitchen. All I need to do is cut the pip and route it below the outlets and back up. A few wall clamps and I should be good.

I will send a few pics tomorrow

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30029 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

All I need to do is cut the pip and route it below the outlets and back up.



no no no no, thats wrong, you want the water to go up and out of the way and not down

its common to think water drips down hill, but you want it tucked up neatly out of the way so nothing ever hits it. if you mount it low anything that goes in that cabinet could hit and break the line sometime later in the future



quote:

My hose bib is connected to the outside of the kitchen.


ok, i wasnt going to assume anything after seeing your picture

that guy knows so little about plumbing its laughable, so i assumed he just shoved it through a hole in the wall where it might be able to spin after you cut it.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1186 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:16 pm to
licensed plumber?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61682 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

no no no no, thats wrong, you want the water to go up and out of the way and not down

its common to think water drips down hill, but you want it tucked up neatly out of the way so nothing ever hits it. if you mount it low anything that goes in that cabinet could hit and break the line sometime later in the future



That metal you see above the outlets is my Coyote pellet smoker. Its just above the outlets and has very very little room behind it. I believe it would be safer running the pvc below for extra room. If I ran it above, it will be very close to my pellet smoker back plate. It may even touch.

Below, there is a drawer, which is how I removed to get in there, but there is at least a foot of space there once the drawer is closed. The drawer has a pan that goes in first then the drawer slides in there.


you can see it here. Once the pan is mounted back in there and the drawer is installed, nothing can get to that area. Its pretty concealed back there when everything is buttoned up. But going up would be way more difficult








Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16581 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

Pride in your work is just a thing of the past.



Or just plain incompetence in doing the job at all. My fiancée had a two-zone minizsplit system installed last year, worked fine all that summer and we she started using it this season the office directly below started showing signs of a water leak on the ceiling. The factory condensate drain line had pulled loose from the PVC drain, looks like they had tried to use PVC glue but the factory fitting is not PVC so they duct taped it together. Tape finally failed so not only did I get to spend a little time fixing both units, I get to redo an entire ceiling in a few weekends now.
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