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New Sod Questions
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:18 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 7:18 am
The drought last year hit my St Augustine yard pretty hard. So I am patching areas with sod.
Last year I did some dirt work in my back yard and put down some sod. It got gray leaf spot pretty bad from the frequent watering the first couple of weeks. So I am prophylactically treating the new sod with propiconizole.
Would it be ok give it a little bit of fertilizer in the first week, or should I wait? I was thinking of just spreading a little milorganite. Would something else be better for helping the roots establish? Also, how long should I wait before mowing over the area? I don't really remember what I did last year, but I'm pretty sure I waited a while just to be safe.
Last year I did some dirt work in my back yard and put down some sod. It got gray leaf spot pretty bad from the frequent watering the first couple of weeks. So I am prophylactically treating the new sod with propiconizole.
Would it be ok give it a little bit of fertilizer in the first week, or should I wait? I was thinking of just spreading a little milorganite. Would something else be better for helping the roots establish? Also, how long should I wait before mowing over the area? I don't really remember what I did last year, but I'm pretty sure I waited a while just to be safe.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:27 am to PillageUrVillage
quote:Why not go higher in P and K?
Would something else be better for helping the roots establish?
A true starter fert will do that.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:28 am to PillageUrVillage
quote:What a truly esoteric word
prophylactically
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:44 am to PillageUrVillage
quote:Your sod shouldn’t need fertilizer for the first few weeks.
Would it be ok give it a little bit of fertilizer in the first week, or should I wait?
quote:They make root growth stimulant products, which is basically just Humic acid and Sea Kelp. That would work.
Would something else be better for helping the roots establish?
quote:Holding off on mowing allows the new grass root into your existing soil, so you don’t want to disturb that process. If you stay on top of the watering process, you should be good to mow after 2 weeks for patches. If you’re sodding a big section, then I’d wait a month.
how long should I wait before mowing over the area?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:45 am to bayoubengals88
quote:
Why not go higher in P and K? A true starter fert will do that.
That’s why I asked. I just wasn’t sure what the best protocol was or if higher P and K were necessary. What would be a good NPK ratio? Should I just put down some triple 13?
ETA:
quote:
Tifway419
Thanks for all of that!
I’ll hold off on the fert for now. I do have some humic. So I’ll give them a little of that.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 9:49 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:07 am to PillageUrVillage
quote:”Starter Fertilizer” is mainly for seed. It is high in Phosphorus (the second number), which promotes root growth (which is what you want) and should be around 25. Potassium (the third number) is for overall health and you’ll normally see this around 10 with starter ferts.
I just wasn’t sure what the best protocol was or if higher P and K were necessary.
Triple 13 is fine, but having phosphorus number over 5 runs the risk of building too much thatch to already established lawns. I just wouldn’t use that as my regular fertilizer every year.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:18 am to Tifway419
quote:My first thought was “buy some RGS from Yard Mastery” but talk about a touchy subject
They make root growth stimulant products, which is basically just Humic acid and Sea Kelp. That would work.
I’m trying their products currently.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:21 am to bayoubengals88
Why is it a touchy subject? What did I miss?
Snake oil? (Although the ingredients in RGS are proven to work)
Snake oil? (Although the ingredients in RGS are proven to work)
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:21 am to bayoubengals88
quote:
My first thought was “buy some RGS from Yard Mastery” but talk about a touchy subject
I’m trying their products currently.
I used RGS on my new Tifway sod last year and thought it worked very well. I also used their 13-13-13 on it.
I've been pleasantly surprised by their products, but I'm not a YM fanboy or anything. I like trying all kinds of different products by different companies.
I plan on putting down some Anderson's PGF complete soon.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:22 am to Tifway419
quote:
Why is it a touchy subject? What did I miss?
Snake oil? (Although the ingredients in RGS are proven to work)
He may be referencing the liquid Air-8 product?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:25 am to bayoubengals88
The liquid aeration products are the ones that tend to get the most controversy. Otherwise everything else may have some benefit, but plenty people also have great lawns just doing standard npk applications and possible pgr if you're into it.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:30 pm to Tifway419
quote:Yes, it always seems to be controversial. Probably more on TLF than here.
Snake oil? (Although the ingredients in RGS are proven to work)
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:12 pm to Ziggy
quote:
He may be referencing the liquid Air-8 product?
I was referring to RGS specifically, but it applies to any biostimulant from the N-ext line of products. Yes, Air-8 gets the most hate.
I use it. I’ll reevaluate in the fall.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:55 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
I was referring to RGS specifically, but it applies to any biostimulant from the N-ext line of products.
Gotcha.
LCN (Lawn Care Nut) who is the Owner of YM did some testing on a bunch of bio-stiumlant products with some Zoysia plugs - LINK
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:23 pm to Ziggy
Yeah, I find Allen most likable out of the big names on YouTube.
Great video!
Did he try again with pots that drain?
Great video!
Did he try again with pots that drain?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:58 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
Did he try again with pots that drain?
Not that I recall.
The SeaK results were crazy!
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:37 pm to Ziggy
Sea Kelp is also very expensive
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:52 pm to Tifway419
quote:
Sea Kelp is also very expensive
Truth!
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:12 pm to PillageUrVillage
Friendly reminder: NPK is up, down, all around. N-push growth, P-develop stronger roots, K-overall health.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:23 pm to bayoubengals88
My favorite Bermuda YouTuber is Ron Henry. Do not follow how to with doc.
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