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Building in Flood Zone A

Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:28 pm
Posted by MaxDraft
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
558 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:28 pm
Question for the board -

I'm looking at purchasing a lot that is half in zone X and half in A. Unfortunately, it's split on the sides and not the middle, so I can't just build in the zone X portion.

The zone A part is roughly 2' or so low compared to the base flood elevation for that area. My question is, if/when I build a house higher than the base flood elevation on that lot, does it keep me from paying insane flood insurance? Is there any way to get a "zone X" rate?
Posted by TigerATO
Member since Dec 2013
215 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:37 pm to
Going through that right now. 1" of water on my property in 2016 after 33" of rain in 24hrs. Water gone in 2 hrs.

You'll have to have a survey to mark your elevation for the finished floor of the home. It will be 1ft above base flood elevation. The surveyor will usually handle the Loma paperwork after you build and then you won't have to pay crazy high flood insurance. FEMA determines the flood zone map. I'm not sure if you can get the A changed to the zone x
Posted by MaxDraft
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
558 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:40 pm to
Thanks, this is helpful. I didn't mean to change the official flood zone map from A to X, just meant to get the "zone X" flood insurance rate and not be required to pay crazy high rates for something that is likely never going to happen.

I appreciate it.
Posted by TigerATO
Member since Dec 2013
215 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 5:43 pm to
I was hoping you could get it changed and tell me how

I'm looking at 4' of dirt
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6758 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:11 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 1:59 pm
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1318 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:02 am to
Your rate is based on how high your structure is vs. the BFE. The higher you go above the BFE the cheaper the insurance.

0 = structure is at BFE = average rate
+1 = structure is 1' above BFE = better rate than 0
+2 = structure is 2' above BFE = better rate than +1.
-1 = structure is 1' below BFE = worse rate than 0

FEMA maps do change over time so this means today you can be a +2 but ten years from now you might be in a +1.

I don't know if this is still a fact but FEMA rounds off to the nearest foot for rating even though the EC is in tenths of feet.

This means 0.6' above the BFE is rated at a +1 and 1.6 is rated at a +2.

Please note local governments, city or parish can have higher elevations requirements than the FEMA maps. This is called freeboard. Check with the local Floodplain manager for this info.

Is there any way to get the zone X rate


read this

LINK .
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 5:06 am
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1059 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:23 am to
I just went through this exact scenario. I’m going to assume your building on a slab. Call your local floodplain administrator and ask what the freeboard requirement is. Ours is a finished floor height 1’ above BFE. You can do this two ways - bring in fill dirt for a pad and ensure it’s above the BFE, then have a surveyor file a LOMR-F on the elevated dirt. The other option is to build and then have the surveyor complete a LOMR-F on the actual structure. We went with the dirt pad route so that we don’t have to carry flood insurance during construction. Your final elevation certificate is where you will prove you met the freeboard requirement. If your have a LOMR-F then you won’t be in flood zone A anymore and won’t have to carry flood insurance at all - it does change the map - it’s a letter of map amendment.
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2662 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:55 am to
Be careful building anything below the slab of your house; my builder put a closet in the car port about 6” below the house slab and it caused the entire home to be rated at that elevation for insurance.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1059 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:09 am to
Yep, I can see that causing a problem. That’s why you build extras like patios, decks, etc after all inspections and insurance people are long gone.
Posted by MaxDraft
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
558 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:07 am to
quote:

If your have a LOMR-F then you won’t be in flood zone A anymore and won’t have to carry flood insurance at all - it does change the map - it’s a letter of map amendment.


Great advice. Thanks
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166264 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Great advice. Thanks


x zone vs a zone doesn't mean rates are cheaper anymore.
Posted by Mr Fusion
The American Dream City
Member since Dec 2010
7457 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 6:05 pm to
Since the adoption of Risk Rating 2.0, there are a lot more factors taken into consideration than just elevation. The link below gives a good general summary of how the new system works.

LINK
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