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Buckled Floor in Closet Next to Shower - Repairman Needed
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:41 pm
Before we bought the house we did an inspection where they happened to be changing out the floor in this closet. They were also refinishing the floors throughout the home. We didn't ask any questions when our inspector we did not see any issue. Nothing we can do now except fix the problem since it has reared its head.
When first noticed a problem, I pulled a couple of boards up. Totally wet. Water would accumulate after the shower was run. Stopped using the shower over the past 3 months and no water accumulates and floor appears to have dried, so pretty sure its the source.
I've got no relevant experience to fixing this type of problem. Anyone got any good recommendations on someone who would be willing to repair my shower? I assume they'd have to pretty much tear the thing out and reinstall with new tile, etc. I can probably do the floor myself, but would consider a turn key job. Thanks in advance.
When first noticed a problem, I pulled a couple of boards up. Totally wet. Water would accumulate after the shower was run. Stopped using the shower over the past 3 months and no water accumulates and floor appears to have dried, so pretty sure its the source.
I've got no relevant experience to fixing this type of problem. Anyone got any good recommendations on someone who would be willing to repair my shower? I assume they'd have to pretty much tear the thing out and reinstall with new tile, etc. I can probably do the floor myself, but would consider a turn key job. Thanks in advance.
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:46 pm to RoyalWe
Take some pics of the shower and the flooring and post them
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:00 pm to RoyalWe
Probably a leaking shower pan which like you said will require all the tile to be torn and a new pan installed and re tiled. Good luck.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:02 pm to wickowick
Shower and closet.
Floor close-up.
Section of drywall I cut out to look for moisture.
Difficult to see, but it appears there is moisture in this wood (close to the closet door).
Floor close-up.
Section of drywall I cut out to look for moisture.
Difficult to see, but it appears there is moisture in this wood (close to the closet door).
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:11 pm to RoyalWe
Yep, leaking shower pan. If that tile is available, a good tile guy can pull out the lower 1 of 2 runs and replace the shower pan, the shower floor tile and the lower course of wall tiles.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:21 pm to RoyalWe
Very good chance it's the pan.
However as you seem handy enough to open that wall. I'd also open up the same wall to look at the valve. It could be the culprit, as well as a leak where the shower head screws in; however you can test it good enough by capping (removing shower head), running water, and looking through same valve cutout for water coming down wall. Since they are both inline.
BUT
First since it's all dry now.
Try plugging the drain and filling the bottom up with 2-3-4 inches of water using a bucket. If leak appears this way it'll be the shower pan for sure. Don't splash up the walls... it could be a bad corner and water proofing; however looks like it's a pretty nice job for that. I'd let water sit for a while as it won't hurt if not the problem and if it is. . . well you know the rest.
However as you seem handy enough to open that wall. I'd also open up the same wall to look at the valve. It could be the culprit, as well as a leak where the shower head screws in; however you can test it good enough by capping (removing shower head), running water, and looking through same valve cutout for water coming down wall. Since they are both inline.
BUT
First since it's all dry now.
Try plugging the drain and filling the bottom up with 2-3-4 inches of water using a bucket. If leak appears this way it'll be the shower pan for sure. Don't splash up the walls... it could be a bad corner and water proofing; however looks like it's a pretty nice job for that. I'd let water sit for a while as it won't hurt if not the problem and if it is. . . well you know the rest.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:22 pm to RoyalWe
Also, sue the previous seller for not disclosing a known problem
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:35 pm to RoyalWe
In the shower where the walls meet the shower floor, any cracks in the grout? The pan should catch any water but is there and obvious place of water intrusion? Also, the water could be leaning around the drain and running back to the closet wall
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:41 pm to RoyalWe
Where they drilled the bracket into the wall near the leaking side, does it see a lot of water?
If you can, remove that inside door trim and finish that drywall cut all the way to the door trim since the rotten wood is on that side. Maybe you can find the source.
If you are in NO, I know a great tile man.
If you can, remove that inside door trim and finish that drywall cut all the way to the door trim since the rotten wood is on that side. Maybe you can find the source.
If you are in NO, I know a great tile man.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:49 pm to awestruck
quote:You can't see in the photo, but I can partly see and touch the valve. We didn't feel any leak from it, but I suppose it's still possible. I like your suggestion re: filling it up. Thanks for giving me things to think about to confirm the issue.
I'd also open up the same wall to look at the valve.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:50 pm to wickowick
quote:I think I got a line on a good tile guy. Thanks for your help.
a good tile guy can...
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:52 pm to Bucktail1
quote:I think too much time has passed since we purchased the home and there's probably enough wiggle room for him to get out of it anyway. I feel the same way you do though.
sue the previous seller for not disclosing a known problem
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:53 pm to wickowick
quote:No obvious grout damage, but yeah it's probably a pan leak by somehow being damaged (?) or at the drain itself. Either way, will have to be re-done if that's it.
In the shower where the walls meet the shower floor, any cracks in the grout? The pan should catch any water but is there and obvious place of water intrusion? Also, the water could be leaning around the drain and running back to the closet wall
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:58 pm to RoyalWe
sounds like you need better ventilation in that bathroom regardless of any needed repairs you do, you already saw the warning signs needing to have it fixed already
Posted on 6/16/20 at 7:27 pm to Aristo
quote:Shower head points away from the closet. Water seems to be mostly at the closet but the wife just told me that she has seen moisture under the tub near the shower.
Where they drilled the bracket into the wall near the leaking side, does it see a lot of water?
quote:Yeah, thinking about what you've said plus the other suggestions as to how much/what to do.
If you can, remove that inside door trim and finish that drywall cut all the way to the door trim since the rotten wood is on that side. Maybe you can find the source.
quote:Thanks, but I'm just outside of BR.
If you are in NO, I know a great tile man.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:26 pm to RoyalWe
We had a similar issue crop up, but was new construction, the water ran across the hall separating the master from the other bedrooms.
Turns out the drain pipe (pvc) from the attic AC unit had accidentally been drilled through a few times and the increased Summer condensation was running partially on the outside of the pipe. (pipe in the dividing wall tween tub and shower, about 6" above the floor, filling a "trench" in the foundation for the tub piping which had to be either sponged or vacuumed out. Holes were spotted by shining flashlight down pipe from attic.)
Plumber changed out the damaged section and glued it up overly well. Got the floor guy out to make sure the floor was OK. Told us to call him if ANY odors occurred. Luckily it dried nicely and no further problems.
Turns out the drain pipe (pvc) from the attic AC unit had accidentally been drilled through a few times and the increased Summer condensation was running partially on the outside of the pipe. (pipe in the dividing wall tween tub and shower, about 6" above the floor, filling a "trench" in the foundation for the tub piping which had to be either sponged or vacuumed out. Holes were spotted by shining flashlight down pipe from attic.)
Plumber changed out the damaged section and glued it up overly well. Got the floor guy out to make sure the floor was OK. Told us to call him if ANY odors occurred. Luckily it dried nicely and no further problems.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:29 pm to RoyalWe
quote:
the wife just told me that she has seen moisture under the tub near the shower.
Most likely the liner they used to make the pan. Hopefully, you can find the matching tile and it won't be too bad of a repair.
Keep us updated.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:04 pm to RoyalWe
Shower pan liner doesn't look like it comes up nearly high enough. Code is 2" above the curb.
Is that cement board you exposed behind the tiles?
Definitely do the flood test, put at least 2" of water in the shower, mark the level of water, watch and wait.
In our recent renovation our shower pan failed the first flood test in epic fashion, with water pouring out of the downstairs kitchen can lights. Be ready to quickly abort and have some towels and fan's handy!
Is that cement board you exposed behind the tiles?
Definitely do the flood test, put at least 2" of water in the shower, mark the level of water, watch and wait.
In our recent renovation our shower pan failed the first flood test in epic fashion, with water pouring out of the downstairs kitchen can lights. Be ready to quickly abort and have some towels and fan's handy!
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:10 am to RoyalWe
I’m just impressed they used treated wood inside the wall there. The guy who “renovated” my home before me used untreated wood everywhere - inside and outside.
Some people are fricking idiots and then other idiots come along and buy houses from them
Some people are fricking idiots and then other idiots come along and buy houses from them
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:50 am to TDsngumbo
Helped a friend in Zachary remedy a similar problem. He had a plastic pan and the pipe coming up from the slab was at a slight angle and impossible to get a good seal on it. We ended up tearing down the shower and chipping out the a hole in order to install a new drain pipe. PITA job. You got some good advice here in this thread.
One other thing to check. Change of plane requires caulk not grout. So make sure the corners are caulked and not grouted.
One other thing to check. Change of plane requires caulk not grout. So make sure the corners are caulked and not grouted.
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