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Blackberries
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:42 am
Looking for a little advice: I was able to dig up about 10 out-shoots from the main canes of some thorny trailing blackberry vines yesterday to take home. I made sure to keep the dirt ball around the roots of most of them, and for the ones where the dirt broke apart, I brought a bucket of moist potting soil to shove them into. They were planted immediately when I got home, so out-of-ground to in-to-ground was about 20-30 minutes. My concern is that they are all limp now and aren't looking too hot. I was able to get a good bit of fresh root for each shoot, used a quality soil, and wet them good after planting.
I guess I'm asking the blackberry experts here if this is normal and they will bounce back, or should I pull them, cut them, and raise the cuttings with some root hormone like I do with flowers?
I guess I'm asking the blackberry experts here if this is normal and they will bounce back, or should I pull them, cut them, and raise the cuttings with some root hormone like I do with flowers?
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:53 am to TheBoo
leave them alone, transplant shock.
the vines will (if they dont die) grow roots instead of new growth.
BTW make sure you got blackberries and not dewberries. if you got dewberries, go dig them up
the vines will (if they dont die) grow roots instead of new growth.
BTW make sure you got blackberries and not dewberries. if you got dewberries, go dig them up
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:56 am to TheBoo
If they've already bloomed into ripe-berries, they aren't blackberries...but dewberries.
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:56 am to cgrand
Thanks for the insight. These are definitely blackberries. I was allowed to eat a few as I dug. Huge, beautiful, delicious blackberries.
The person who allowed me to do this "does" blackberries. He has a huge field of assorted wild and domestic blackberries behind the trellis that he allowed me to take from. It's possible he has some dewberries but he's the kind of guy who would know the difference and what he has.
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If they've already bloomed into blackberries, they aren't blackberries...but dewberries.
The person who allowed me to do this "does" blackberries. He has a huge field of assorted wild and domestic blackberries behind the trellis that he allowed me to take from. It's possible he has some dewberries but he's the kind of guy who would know the difference and what he has.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 11:03 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:02 am to TheBoo
I'd highly recommend planting ripping all of them up and planting a couple University of Arkansas thornless varieties (Prime-Ark/Freedom). I planted two last year they produce twice a year on primocanes and floricanes. Huge blackberries and more that my family can eat. Almost zero maintenance.
Very disease resistance as well. Purchased mine from Cleggs in BR.
Very disease resistance as well. Purchased mine from Cleggs in BR.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 11:04 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:09 am to lsugolfredman
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I'd highly recommend planting ripping all of them up and planting a couple University of Arkansas thornless varieties (Prime-Ark/Freedom). I planted two last year they produce twice a year on primocanes and floricanes. Huge blackberries and more that my family can eat. Almost zero maintenance.
Very disease resistance as well. Purchased mine from Cleggs in BR.
I was actually planning to order some prime ark freedoms until I stumbled upon this free opportunity. His vines were planted last august and they are LOADED down already with the first wave just getting ripe. What he has would satisfy my needs and then some. If they don't work out, I'll have no problem going back to the original plan. The Prime Ark Freedoms seem to be the best from the thornless variety. I'm glad you provided that recommendation.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 11:13 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:15 am to lsugolfredman
i planted some in my backyard a few years ago and couldn't keep the birds away. those frickers ate the berries as soon as they would form 
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:37 am to TheBoo
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I guess I'm asking the blackberry experts here if this is normal and they will bounce back, or should I pull them, cut them, and raise the cuttings with some root hormone like I do with flowers?
Normal transplant shock - just keep the soil moist, not wet, for the next several weeks and they should bounce back as the root system develops. You might have tips of canes that begin to die back from reduced root system, just cut them back.
I have Ark Prime Freedom, Natchez, Ouachita, and Arapaho, all thornless, erect, planted in the past year or 2, all doing great, blooming, full of small berries.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:39 am to TheBoo
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The person who allowed me to do this "does" blackberries.
Blackberries and dewberries are almost indistinguishable and freely interbreed. They're all in the genus Rubus. The one's that are called dewberries generally have fine "furry" looking thorns and don't grow as tall or have as thick stalks as what are called blackberries. But if the 2 are close to each other you will have mixed species all over the place.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:13 pm to bnb9433
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couldn't keep the birds away.
Same thing with my fig tree unless I get out at the crack of dawn and pick what is close to ripe.
Damn birds will pick a hole in a fig and move on to another fig without eating much of any they pick holes in, but that allows fruit flies and other pests to enter the fruit and ruin it.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:35 pm to REB BEER
Blackberries in April?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:44 pm to deeprig9
They are all over the road my neighborhood is on. Most aren’t ripe but a few were.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:52 pm to TheBoo
Some root stimulator should help
Posted on 4/17/20 at 4:28 pm to lsugolfredman
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I'd highly recommend planting ripping all of them up and planting a couple University of Arkansas thornless varieties (Prime-Ark/Freedom). I planted two last year they produce twice a year on primocanes and floricanes. Huge blackberries and more that my family can eat. Almost zero maintenance.
Can you grow this variety in Zone 5-6 (Utah)? They are primocane, which I think means first year stems and fall fruiting, right? This is what Utah State says on blackberries:
"Primocane-fruiting blackberries can produce fruit on first year canes (primocanes). These start fruiting in late August and continue until fall freezes occur. Since the canes do not have to overwinter, winter hardiness is not a concern."
I have raspberries coming out my kazoo in the early summer, but it would sure be nice to have some blackberries as well.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 4:37 pm to alpinetiger
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Can you grow this variety in Zone 5-6 (Utah)?
According to the literature you can grow Prime Ark Freedom as far north as Zone 5.
The fall crop will be on the primocanes (1 year growth) with a heavier crop in spring on the 2nd year floricanes.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:03 pm to lsugolfredman
The Arkansas versions are the bomb. My former neighbor got his PhD at Arkansas and had contacts there. He got me several cutting when they first developed those and they grow like crazy and are prolific with huge berries. Get those Boo
Posted on 4/18/20 at 1:29 am to deeprig9
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Blackberries in April?
The ones by my house were a couple weeks earlier than usual. I picked at the end of March or start of April. Got 3.5 pounds.
Went back April 7th and at least half were past ripe and dried out. Got another 2.5 pounds.
Around half are blackberries and half dewberries. Taste the same to me.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 6:36 am to deeprig9
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Blackberries in April?
My bush is loaded right now.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:36 am to BallsEleven
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My bush is loaded right now.
That's what she......um...nevermind.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:15 pm to BallsEleven
Ok, so I’ve called all the Clegg’s and they don’t have any prime ark freedom. Said they have Arapaho this year. Does anyone know where I can get the Freedom?
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 3:22 pm
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