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Name changes request/alter check and banning
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:12 am
Ser Pounce is on the movie board, he's obviously an alter and he seems to be a bit of a loose cannon so it's only a matter of time before he breaks some major rules.
I'd like to suggest being proactive and closing his account now before he does any damage to this great site. Once that's done, I'd like a name change to "Ser Pounce". This shouldn't be difficult as it won't be a username in use.
I'd like to suggest being proactive and closing his account now before he does any damage to this great site. Once that's done, I'd like a name change to "Ser Pounce". This shouldn't be difficult as it won't be a username in use.
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 9:14 am
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Posted on 9/4/15 at 2:18 pm to LucasP
Well, he appears to be banned. Then again, I've taken down my avatar and sig just to mess with people, so who knows?
Good luck. I think you should only get a name change if there is some corresponding site announcement of it.
Good luck. I think you should only get a name change if there is some corresponding site announcement of it.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 2:25 pm to blueboy
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Well, he appears to be banned.
Wait, seriously? I was just fricking around honestly.
But if he IS banned, then how about that name change?
Posted on 9/4/15 at 4:21 pm to LucasP
His avi and sig are gone.
AA really is a cult, btw. Good call there.
ETA: Don't get me wrong. I know people who have stopped drinking because of it, but I know more people who got sober through other means.
AA really is a cult, btw. Good call there.
ETA: Don't get me wrong. I know people who have stopped drinking because of it, but I know more people who got sober through other means.
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:33 pm to blueboy
Well since this thread is going nowhere, I'll be serious.
My main problem with aa is that if it doesn't work out it blames the addict, not the program. "It works if you work it" implies that the person didn't "work it". Maybe it just didn't work for them and they should look elsewhere, but it doesn't allow that possibility. It simply says you need more meetings.
If you tried a therapy and it failed, then a therapist would suggest another therapy, aa keeps doubling down its efforts and places the blame on the user. It can be very discouraging and even dangerous.
Like I've said before, I'm not a fan of the program and find it pretty self righteous.
My main problem with aa is that if it doesn't work out it blames the addict, not the program. "It works if you work it" implies that the person didn't "work it". Maybe it just didn't work for them and they should look elsewhere, but it doesn't allow that possibility. It simply says you need more meetings.
If you tried a therapy and it failed, then a therapist would suggest another therapy, aa keeps doubling down its efforts and places the blame on the user. It can be very discouraging and even dangerous.
Like I've said before, I'm not a fan of the program and find it pretty self righteous.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 6:04 pm to LucasP
AA simply says "hey these are suggestions on how to get sober based on how i got sober"
If someone doesnt follow those suggestions, more than likely they will relapse. If you do, your odds are good.
A lot of people enter aa at or near a dead end. Life or death situation. Many have no idea how to do even simple things like eat normally and pay bills on time.
AA teaches you how to be a "normal" member of society.
Are there other ways to get sober? Of course. Is aa the best way? For some. Certainly not for all.
The problem i have with you, lucas, is you bash the program with little knowledge on how it works. Sure you can regurgitate a few phrases you have heard, but with no substance to validate your claims.
You also offer no advice on all these other magnificent ways to get sober
If someone doesnt follow those suggestions, more than likely they will relapse. If you do, your odds are good.
A lot of people enter aa at or near a dead end. Life or death situation. Many have no idea how to do even simple things like eat normally and pay bills on time.
AA teaches you how to be a "normal" member of society.
Are there other ways to get sober? Of course. Is aa the best way? For some. Certainly not for all.
The problem i have with you, lucas, is you bash the program with little knowledge on how it works. Sure you can regurgitate a few phrases you have heard, but with no substance to validate your claims.
You also offer no advice on all these other magnificent ways to get sober
Posted on 9/4/15 at 6:47 pm to ksayetiger
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re there other ways to get sober? Of course. Is aa the best way? For some. Certainly not for all.
I just wish this were made more clear. You get a lot of twelve steppers who proselytize that it's the one true way.
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he problem i have with you, lucas, is you bash the program with little knowledge on how it works. Sure you can regurgitate a few phrases you have heard, but with no substance to validate your claims.
I'll admit that I'm pretty biased against it just because of my experience. But I've done enough research and had more than enough experience to understand it and its philosophies both on paper and in practice.
You've obviously had a good experience with it, and I'm glad I hope you continue to. But I just want people to know that there's other options out there and failing at aa doesn't equate failure. You can get control of your life by other means.
Agree to disagree. Still love ya bro.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 7:51 pm to ksayetiger
Also I upvoted your post because honestly I've fallen short on giving good alternatives other than some pretty simple Google searches.
But I would always suggest therapy and if one does try aa they should know that it's not the end-all be-all of treatment. I guess that's the point I've always tried to make.
Again, still love ya broseph.
But I would always suggest therapy and if one does try aa they should know that it's not the end-all be-all of treatment. I guess that's the point I've always tried to make.
Again, still love ya broseph.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 7:56 pm to LucasP
quote:That is absolutely the case, when nothing could be further from the truth.
I just wish this were made more clear. You get a lot of twelve steppers who proselytize that it's the one true way.
The most disturbing thing I discovered is that AA has no organizational infrastructure. They have a home office. That's it. The vast majority of meeting locations are donated by those who own the properties (churches, community centers, etc.) so AA pays little to nothing in rental costs. The only thing the organization produces are pamphlets advertising their organization. The Big Book is not free, so where is the river of money taken in from thousands of meeting at thousands of locations going?
They must spend a bit of it on lobbying, because almost every legal jurisdiction in America will sentence DUI offenders to AA meetings. They aren't given the option of any number of other treatments or groups, just AA, one of the least successful groups there is.
I also noticed that at almost every AA group, there was one person who stood up after the collection plate went around and browbeat everyone into donating more money. Every group had one of these people. It was a little bizarre.
Lie I said, it works for some people (most likely because they have made the decision to quit long before they enter) but it does not work, statistically, for most people.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:08 pm to blueboy
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hey must spend a bit of it on lobbying, because almost every legal jurisdiction in America will sentence DUI offenders to AA meetings.
I wasn't going to get into this aspect of it, cause it's counterproductive when you're trying to point out the flaws to someone who actually believes it, or is considering it.
The money is a big reason why most twelve step programs are 28 days traditionally, that's when insurance used to stop paying.
A lot of people have vested interest in keeping this a legitimate "treatment", but that's not usually how I approach the topic because it comes off tin foil hat-ish.
quote:
e Big Book is not free
Yeah I've dropped at least two hundred dollars purchasing it from Barnes and Nobles several times to try and help people. It's not free and honestly a bad investment.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:28 pm to LucasP
Oh, and finally, there's this shite, which was a big story when I lived up there.
quote:It's not typical, but it's the kind of thing that happens when you give too many strangers authority over your life.
But something about Midtown was not right. After a few months, the group's embrace of May began to feel like a chokehold. She says the sponsor assigned to give her moral support and help keep her sober pressured her to cut off ties to anyone outside the group. Another member snatched her cell phone and deleted names in the directory. She says she was pressured to stop taking the medication a doctor had prescribed to manage her bipolar disorder: group members told her she couldn't be sober if she was taking any kind of drug. There was a hierarchy to the group. Younger members were sometimes expected to wash cars, clean houses and do other menial chores for more senior members.
May says she was especially uncomfortable with the emphasis on dating within the group and sex between members. She would listen as girls her age compared notes on the men in the group they had been encouraged to sleep with, some of whom were decades older.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:57 pm to blueboy
You're right but I wouldn't bring it up. Like I said, it's counterproductive.
And honestly if someone finds that it works then awesome.
My main thing is I don't want people to get discouraged if it doesn't.
And honestly if someone finds that it works then awesome.
My main thing is I don't want people to get discouraged if it doesn't.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:12 pm to LucasP
quote:True. Like I said, I do know people who've had success with it.
And honestly if someone finds that it works then awesome.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:21 pm to LucasP
Down voted.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 10:19 pm to CaptainsWafer
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own voted.
Piss on you, you son of a bitch.
I'll frick your dying mother's face and interrupt her last words as she attempts to whisper "captains you were a disappointment"
Posted on 9/4/15 at 10:24 pm to CaptainsWafer
Sorry, I feel like I might have overreacted.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 11:17 pm to LucasP
Ill allow it.
Posted on 9/5/15 at 1:20 am to LucasP
You got my wife's account banned you dick
She's Preggo and pissed.
She's Preggo and pissed.
This post was edited on 9/5/15 at 1:22 am
Posted on 9/5/15 at 1:32 am to CaptainsWafer
Since wafer is an admin officially requesting reinstatement to sight for the wife. I promise to never go on her account in the future ever again. She is not a loose cannon like myself and only joined site to participate in game of thrones threads as she and I are both avid book readers of the series.
This post was edited on 9/5/15 at 3:37 am
Posted on 9/5/15 at 9:20 am to Mrtommorrow1987
Holy frick, if that's true I'm really sorry man. This whole thing was a goof, congrats on the baby and all that.
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