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re: Grass fed beef
Posted on 8/13/17 at 8:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 8/13/17 at 8:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
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This seems circular. What about it is "so much better" for me? That's my whole question.
IMO the actual benefits depend on where you are buying your beef. If you are getting it from the farm or a distributor you can trust, you have a better idea of how that cow was raised and fed. The problem buying from the store is you have little idea of what went into that cow. Most people assume the premium they are paying for grass fed also limits the antibiotics, hormones, etc. that the cow was given, but really as consumers we have little way of knowing this the further from the farm you purchase.
I eat lots of beef. For a steak, I prefer the average taste of grain finished over grass finished, but each individual cow can be very different. Some of the best steaks I have had were grass finished, but there is a bitterness to many of them that I do not like.
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 8:48 pm to Big Scrub TX
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What about it is "so much better" for me?
My understanding is the whole vitamin profile is better in grass fed. Closer to natural diet so healthier animal, so gamier taste.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:32 pm to slacker00
do hormone-treated cows make for dangerous or less healthy meat? Same question re antibiotics. I honestly don't know. But I have to assume it's nothing like injecting oneself with either.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:03 pm to zatetic
yea give me the buttery taste babe 
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:29 pm to McLemore
As far as healthy or not, I don't think it is well studied.
FDA says it is fine, Europe bans some of the practices, and consumer groups have been saying for years that it is bad. Without solid evidence either way they are going to feed it to us if it makes them a buck and without evidence I'd rather limit it within reason when I can.
Eating is so complicated today it's really hard to know in many cases. In others we think it is easy. My earlier point was that with most store bought meat we don't really know what it is we are eating. I don't eat strictly grass fed as I don't like the taste as much but I eat it to try and hedge my long term health bet. Most of my grass fed comes direct from a local farm. Some people bet vegetarian. I eat rare steaks cooked in butter.
FDA says it is fine, Europe bans some of the practices, and consumer groups have been saying for years that it is bad. Without solid evidence either way they are going to feed it to us if it makes them a buck and without evidence I'd rather limit it within reason when I can.
Eating is so complicated today it's really hard to know in many cases. In others we think it is easy. My earlier point was that with most store bought meat we don't really know what it is we are eating. I don't eat strictly grass fed as I don't like the taste as much but I eat it to try and hedge my long term health bet. Most of my grass fed comes direct from a local farm. Some people bet vegetarian. I eat rare steaks cooked in butter.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:52 pm to slacker00
I agree with you. I pay more for and go out of my way to buy foods w lots of healthy labels and from sources making local/natural/organic claims as sort of a Pascal's Wager. I just haven't seen much in the way of peer-reviewed studies showing I'm not just being scammed.
That said, I agree the food industry and its government cohorts are also scam artists.
Difficult.
That said, I agree the food industry and its government cohorts are also scam artists.
Difficult.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:42 am to Big Scrub TX
I buy exclusively GF, not just for potential health benefits but because I like the concept that my family is directly linked to the family we buy from. We rely on their meat, they rely on income from us.
We didn't just choose them because they're local, we picked them because they were the best of our options.
As for taste, all GF meat isn't the same; it's all in the grass. I've visited the farm we buy from, and the grass is fantastic. It's chest high, minimal invasive grasses; the kind of pasture people in the 1800's would fight over.
Some ranchers simply aren't candidates for wholly grass fed cows, at least until they work on grass quality.
We didn't just choose them because they're local, we picked them because they were the best of our options.
As for taste, all GF meat isn't the same; it's all in the grass. I've visited the farm we buy from, and the grass is fantastic. It's chest high, minimal invasive grasses; the kind of pasture people in the 1800's would fight over.
Some ranchers simply aren't candidates for wholly grass fed cows, at least until they work on grass quality.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:04 am to LSUfan20005
quote:
Some ranchers simply aren't candidates for wholly grass fed cows, at least until they work on grass quality.
It is very interesting, the history and relationship between ranchers and the consumers. Cattle back then were fatter all the while eating wild grown grasses. Then the nation took on its fat-phobic guidelines and the ranchers took notice. They started breeding leaner cattle. So now, the main lines of cattle we have only get fat on the corn.
There are groups out there that are trying to reverse this and go back to the old ways. My dream is to grab some land and have some of these more "old school" cattle" when I retire.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:18 am to slacker00
quote:This is pretty much where I am. My steaks are plenty buttery - since I sear them in butter! I've also really moved away from grilling and towards the cast iron.
As far as healthy or not, I don't think it is well studied.
FDA says it is fine, Europe bans some of the practices, and consumer groups have been saying for years that it is bad. Without solid evidence either way they are going to feed it to us if it makes them a buck and without evidence I'd rather limit it within reason when I can.
Eating is so complicated today it's really hard to know in many cases. In others we think it is easy. My earlier point was that with most store bought meat we don't really know what it is we are eating. I don't eat strictly grass fed as I don't like the taste as much but I eat it to try and hedge my long term health bet. Most of my grass fed comes direct from a local farm. Some people bet vegetarian. I eat rare steaks cooked in butter.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:06 am to zatetic
Personally I'm all for the gamey taste regardless of what animal it is
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 7:07 am
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:42 pm to McLemore
quote:
I pay more for and go out of my way to buy foods w lots of healthy labels and from sources making local/natural/organic claims as sort of a Pascal's Wager. I just haven't seen much in the way of peer-reviewed studies showing I'm not just being scammed.
You're being scammed
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