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Rules question regarding OB
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:33 am
I understand that when determining OB you line up adjacent white stakes. My question is what is the protocol when the only two white stakes on the hole are 130 yards apart? The red dot is my ball and the white dots represent the OB stakes. Im I just SOL because the course isn't marked properly?
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:36 am to Revan11
Looks to me as OB is anything on property that is not maintained by the golf course from that picture, that ball is in bounds IMO
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:41 am to Revan11
By the rule, yes you are OB. Unless a tournament nobody is going to make you play that as OB though, and if they do, stop playing with that person because they are a dick.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:43 am to Front9Bandit
Right that is the common sense argument, but I was wondering if there was any rules that address this situation?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:46 am to Zanzibaw
So if the only two white stakes cut off a section of that bunker or the fairway you would still say by the rule you are out of bounds?? Feel like that can't be accurate.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:06 pm to Revan11
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So if the only two white stakes cut off a section of that bunker or the fairway you would still say by the rule you are out of bounds?? Feel like that can't be accurate.
Yes. unless there is a stake down near the area with a hole. It has to be known that there was a stake there.
33-2a/19 Boundary Altered by Unauthorized Removal of Boundary Stake
In stroke play, a boundary line has been altered through unauthorized removal of a boundary stake, and therefore there is an area (Area X) which is in bounds if the removed stake is disregarded and out of bounds if the removed stake is replaced.
Q1. A's ball comes to rest in Area X. A is aware that the boundary has been altered. He asks the Committee for a ruling. What is the ruling?
A1. The Committee should replace the removed stake, i.e., restore the original boundary line and require A to proceed under Rule 27-1, unless the Committee knows that one or more preceding competitors had, in ignorance of the fact that a stake has been removed, played from Area X. In that case, the Committee should allow the altered boundary line to stand for the remainder of the competition, and A would play his ball as it lay.
Q2. What would be the ruling if the Committee determined that one or more competitors had, in ignorance of the fact that a stake was missing, played from Area X and one or more other competitors had treated Area X as out of bounds and proceeded under Rule 27-1?
A2. If the inconsistent treatment of Area X could significantly affect the result of the competition, the round should be canceled and replayed. Otherwise, the round should stand.
33-2a/20 Displaced Boundary Stake
Q. A boundary stake has fallen down, or has been removed without authority of the Committee. The stake is lying several feet from the hole in which it had been situated. It is obvious that the stake had been displaced.
A player's ball comes to rest in bounds near the hole in which the boundary stake had been situated. The ball is in such a position that, if the boundary stake were reinstalled, it would interfere with the player's swing.
Is the player required to replace the stake before playing his next stroke?
A. No. If a boundary fence or stake is leaning towards the course and as a result interferes with a player's swing, the player is not allowed to straighten the fence or the stake — see Decision 13-2/18. It follows that, if a boundary fence or stake is leaning away from the course, the player is not allowed to straighten it.
A displaced boundary stake is a movable obstruction. Therefore, the player may replace it but he is not required to do so.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:21 pm to Revan11
Be more aggressive down the water line on #11 at Beaver Creek next time 
The consensus on that course is the property lines are OB. So I’d play it. But in a tournament, technically you’re OB...although most tournaments will spray the lines too.
The consensus on that course is the property lines are OB. So I’d play it. But in a tournament, technically you’re OB...although most tournaments will spray the lines too.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:42 pm to Revan11
The rule is you blame brec's incompetence for not maintaining the course and markers.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:55 pm to Revan11
Someone obviously pulled the stake in between the outer two white stakes. Your ball lies in the cut area that are clearly in bounds according to the other stakes. My question is why the bottom white stake is on private property?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:56 pm to hehateme2285
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Q2. What would be the ruling if the Committee determined that one or more competitors had, in ignorance of the fact that a stake was missing, played from Area X and one or more other competitors had treated Area X as out of bounds and proceeded under Rule 27-1?
A2. If the inconsistent treatment of Area X could significantly affect the result of the competition, the round should be canceled and replayed. Otherwise, the round should stand.
I'd be fricking pissed.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:19 pm to VernonPLSUfan
The bottom stake is at the corner of the fence my dot is just off a bit.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:15 pm to Revan11
Some courses have a written description of the boundaries either on the scorecard or in a yardage book as a backup for the boundary stake placement.
I have seen it listed as:
USGA rules govern play except where local rules apply...
Local Rules are then listed with OB boundaries, soft spikes, proper attire, etc.
Maybe check with the pro shop and ask if they have one.
I have seen it listed as:
USGA rules govern play except where local rules apply...
Local Rules are then listed with OB boundaries, soft spikes, proper attire, etc.
Maybe check with the pro shop and ask if they have one.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:52 pm to Revan11
Straight line from stake to stake. If ball is on the right side of straight line, you OB. If you and your playing partner think your ball lies on the line, play it.
Your pick shows you are OB.
Your pick shows you are OB.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:38 pm to Golfer
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Be more aggressive down the water line on #11 at Beaver Creek next time
Birdied that hole on Sunday. Only had 158 left after my dive. missed the 30 foot eagle. slammed home the birdie 3 footer.
OP: I would’ve played it down from over there.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:56 pm to mommas boy
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I would’ve played it down from over there
The correct answer is play it down everywhere
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:00 pm to Front9Bandit
That's Beaver? That looks easy AF
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:02 pm to mommas boy
Birdie at that hole is basically par
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:09 pm to Croacka
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Birdie at that hole is basically par
Sounds like I need to finally go play Beaver Creek soon
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:21 pm to Croacka
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Birdie at that hole is basically par
It’s the #4 handicapped hole. Keep the badassery on the OT
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:22 pm to Front9Bandit
Yeah par on this hole feels like a bogey
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