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re: Rory's take

Posted on 6/7/23 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3358 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 1:50 pm to
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He turned the battle with LIV into one of legacy, and then morality. Neither argument kept his players from defecting. Then, despite admitting the Tour could never compete dollar for dollar with the PIF, he tried to do exactly that. LIV was always going to win a war of attrition—anybody could see that. 


Who wrote that?

Because...I could be wrong but it seemed that Jays arguments of legacy and morality aligned with many tour players and they didn't defect.
No company is going to win a war of attrition with a country.... But from the comments of many remaining tour players.. They were financially comfortable staying Tour bound
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1912 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:11 pm to
Ehhh.

One player won the one major nobody gives a shite about.

I still think this was a money grab by the PGA.

There was no threat from LIV. A vast majority of the golfers are irrelevant, and of the 3 that were it wasn’t like they were going to win multiple majors moving forward
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36769 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:16 pm to
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It’s been mentioned in the timeline but no one has said it was a catalyst.


Several people have. It was one of the first things to come out of the player meeting yesterday.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65379 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:17 pm to
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No chance that both sides didn’t want to be in court?

I don't think either side wanted to go through the discovery of this case. Both would come out looking bad publicly. The PIF could also bleed the PGA Tour dry in the litigation with much deeper pockets and it would have lasted years. Settling the litigation side of things was probably in both parties' best interests long-term.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32625 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:10 pm to
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The LIV Golfers remain suspended from both tours

As of today, that will be lifted very soon.

quote:

How to bring those guys back into the fold in a way that is kosher with the current PGA and DP players is going to be the biggest story in the next 12 months.


Based on yesterday, you really think they give a shite about the players’ feelings?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96228 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:19 pm to
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As of today, that will be lifted very soon.
You have absolutely no idea how this is going to work, nobody does
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32625 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:23 pm to
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You have absolutely no idea how this is going to work, nobody does


Of course I don’t. However, why would PIF invest into a company that is banning their employees?

This is how most mergers work. They combine work forces.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 3:23 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15109 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:25 pm to
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This is how most mergers work. They combine work forces.


Not really. They typically fire a bunch of redundant people in redundant positions.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96228 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:27 pm to
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This is how most mergers work
This isn’t like most mergers, but anyway, most mergers are the exact opposite of that. A ton of employees usually get the ax
Posted by daberryballer
West of da Berry
Member since Oct 2015
989 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:31 pm to
In the end the top 70 golfers will make a shite ton of money going forward. A shite ton!
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11577 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:53 pm to
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8. Thinks there still need to be some consequences for guys who left the PGA Tour. Said that Jay made that point in the meeting.


This the dumbest shite.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8060 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:18 pm to
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Thinks there still need to be some consequences for guys who left the PGA Tour. Said that Jay made that point in the meeting.


Lol. What a salty bitch.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16228 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

This is how most mergers work. They combine work forces.



Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1597 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:21 pm to
Just saw a tweet that said Rory thinks the players who left should be fined, and at the same time he basically thinks those that turned down the money should be made whole.

Please tell me that isn't true.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96228 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Just saw a tweet that said Rory thinks the players who left should be fined, and at the same time he basically thinks those that turned down the money should be made whole. Please tell me that isn't true.
Its very true, and why would someone in Rory’s shoes not feel that way?
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1597 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:24 pm to
So punish those that took money and then take money yourself?

I guess I'm cool with that as long as he is suspended and fined.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 4:25 pm
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1840 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:25 pm to
Rory can think that all he wants. Why would the LIV guys be fined?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96228 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:27 pm to
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So punish those that took money and then take money yourself?
I don’t think the concept is that hard or crazy. Take the fines from those that left for liv and put it to a pot for the players that remained on tour

Figure out a fine to the players that left that would only offset against what their likely earnings would have been on the Tour, and use that money to then spread the “bonus” to all players, based on a tiered system

Only if the players want to come back. If they don’t, they can keep all their money if PIF allows

That’s just one example. I’m sure the LIV players that want back will fight for no fines at all.

Will be interesting to see how that plays out.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96228 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:28 pm to
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Why would the LIV guys be fined?
Because they left the pga tour for a direct competitor and if they want to come back to the pga tour they would be fined. If they don’t come back they obviously wouldn’t be fined

You can argue they shouldn’t be fined, that’s ok, but acting like you can’t find a reason why they would be seems a little obtuse
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1597 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:34 pm to
Then they should be fined for taking LIV money and give to the lower guys.

Or maybe they should suck it up and realize they made the wrong choice.

He is just proving all he wants is the money (fines).
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 4:36 pm
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