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How is Webb Park looking these days?
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:22 am
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:22 am
Going to be staying around the corner from webble weekend of the Arkansas game. I’m wanting to play 9ish holes early that Saturday morning before leaving for the tailgate. Doing this just to keep my swing up for my club championship which is the following weekend. Not really worried about the greens as much. Just trying to get some practice in hitting shots since I won’t be able to otherwise that weekend or the week following. Lose a bunch of balls if I’m not in the fairway? Lose a bunch of balls if I do hit the fairway?
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:31 am to jgoodw318
Fairways are great. There are definitely some bare spots on the greens but they're largely puttable and coming back decently after a rough summer. Not bad all things considered.
They just hired a new PGA pro named Kevin Landry a week or two ago, so hopefully he can get it in great shape again.
They just hired a new PGA pro named Kevin Landry a week or two ago, so hopefully he can get it in great shape again.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:36 am to jgoodw318
played a few days ago. Fairways werent bad just a little burnt, like every other course. The greens were not great but not horrible. The biggest problem out there is pace of play. We waited on every single hole.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:55 am to jgoodw318
Greens have come a long way since peak summer. Some look great but some still have some rough spots. Overall it is very playable. The fairways were great when I played last week.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:24 am to 904
Kevin is a good guy. Hope he does well.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:08 am to jgoodw318
It’s horrible. Hopefully with the hiring of Kevin things will change, but there is only so much he can do. BREC golf is a clown show
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:11 am to NotBillCaldwell
I tend to agree. I always see Webb apologists saying the greens are okay. They really aren’t okay. They’re pretty freaking bad and a large part of that is due to players not taking care of them.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:21 am to TyOconner
I live in the neighborhood and walk over quite frequently in the late afternoons, I haven’t brought a putter with me since April. The greens just piss me off
Posted on 9/14/23 at 3:04 pm to TyOconner
They’re ok for $30 per round lol
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:55 am to jgoodw318
Right now, if you pre-pay online on Brec you can ride for 18 holes for $20. I think even given the shape of the course it's a good deal. The fairways are ok, the course layout is fun. The greens are mediocre in some areas and very bad in some areas.
If the cost was $35 a round I wouldn't bother with it. But I think where they have set the cost while it's getting in shape is fair.
If the cost was $35 a round I wouldn't bother with it. But I think where they have set the cost while it's getting in shape is fair.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:35 am to RedStickFox
My God, you cheap arse people!
I wish BREC would price ya’ll out of golf. Webb, at a minimum, should be $50 a round. Santa Maria and Beaver should be $75.
That’ll get rid of all the bitching hacks in town. And if the yearly rounds go over 20,000, raise the prices again.
Close one day a week. Start tee times at 8am (7:30 am on weekends)
That’ll give the course time to get in shape. Golf is expensive. Treat it like it’s expensive.
Don’t like it, go private….which every other club should be in this area:
Island
Greystone
Pelican
Copper
Carter
Quit watering down the product.
You want primo, be primo. You want a fun deal, try something else in life!
I wish BREC would price ya’ll out of golf. Webb, at a minimum, should be $50 a round. Santa Maria and Beaver should be $75.
That’ll get rid of all the bitching hacks in town. And if the yearly rounds go over 20,000, raise the prices again.
Close one day a week. Start tee times at 8am (7:30 am on weekends)
That’ll give the course time to get in shape. Golf is expensive. Treat it like it’s expensive.
Don’t like it, go private….which every other club should be in this area:
Island
Greystone
Pelican
Copper
Carter
Quit watering down the product.
You want primo, be primo. You want a fun deal, try something else in life!
Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:46 am to BonesMalone
As much as I agree with you, the unfortunate realization is Louisiana is a state that doesn’t support golf. This isn’t the Carolina’s, Arizona, California where large numbers are willing to spend their disposable income on golf. Here it’s hunting and fishing - golf is an excuse to listen and drink outside.
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:15 am to BonesMalone
Please go down to St Mary in Berwick, False River CC or Fennwood, and then give me one excuse as to why Webb or City Park can’t look like a real golf course, when these 9 hole courses have about half the staff and probably less than half of the budget. No excuses. Also if you think BREC will make reasonable/educated decisions regarding golf and improvements to the quality of play you’re higher than me
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:20 am to BonesMalone
If you think raising prices will get rid of all the bitching hacks, you're gonna be disappointed.
All of these courses going private would swamp Beaver, Webb, and Santa Maria with play more than they already are. You currently have to wake up at the crack of dawn 2 weeks before just to have a shot at booking a weekend time before twilight.
Plus, who wants to play the same 18 holes over and over again when the layout is just meh?
quote:
Island
Greystone
Pelican
Copper
Carter
All of these courses going private would swamp Beaver, Webb, and Santa Maria with play more than they already are. You currently have to wake up at the crack of dawn 2 weeks before just to have a shot at booking a weekend time before twilight.
Plus, who wants to play the same 18 holes over and over again when the layout is just meh?
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:21 am to BonesMalone
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You want primo, be primo. You want a fun deal, try something else in life!
Why haven't you joined BRCC yet?
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:51 pm to 904
All of these courses going private would swamp Beaver, Webb, and Santa Maria with play more than they already are. You currently have to wake up at the crack of dawn 2 weeks before just to have a shot at booking a weekend time before twilight.
Not if the rates are raised. Spend the money to get the product you want. Golf shouldn’t be a deal. That’s how courses close.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:45 pm to BonesMalone
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Not if the rates are raised. Spend the money to get the product you want. Golf shouldn’t be a deal. That’s how courses close.
As far as I'm aware, BREC Golf doesn't work like that because they don't view their courses as a vehicles to make a profit from, but instead as public facilities for use by the tax payers.
I agree that anyone paying less than $30-$40 for 18 with a cart shouldn't be expecting Augusta National like a lot of BR golfers do, and these people are usually the ones also not fixing their ball marks or filling their divots, trashing the course, etc.
On the other hand, BREC can certainly do a better job and I wouldn't mind paying more at the counter for a better product with renovations, but being able to do a loop for the price a sandwich is a great benefit as well. IMO, a large part of the problem can be solved by a crew of active paid marshals consistently patrolling the courses, but it sounds like staffing has been an issue. I think they've started moving in the right direction, but it takes some time.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:03 pm to 904
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Fairways are great. There are definitely some bare spots on the greens but they're largely puttable and coming back decently after a rough summer. Not bad all things considered.
They just hired a new PGA pro named Kevin Landry a week or two ago, so hopefully he can get it in great shape again.
Kevin is a great guy and an excellent golfer. But the hiring of a PGA pro has absolutely nothing to do with course conditions -- at any golf course. PGA Professionals do not manage the golf course maintenance staff. They don't have that kind of training. They manage the golf shop. Superintendents manage the golf course and playing conditions.
Mike Drury is the superintendent at Webb and he does a very good job, considering. Webb's biggest problem is that they're running 45,000 rounds of golf a year over 1.3 acres of Tifdwarf putting surfaces.
You know who has 1.3 acres of greens? City Park. It's nine holes. You know who has Tifdwarf on their greens? Nobody (besides of course, City Park). They are literally the last two, I think. Tifdwarf was the industry standard from about 1960-1995 -- back when greens were mowed at a quarter inch and 9-10 on a stimpmeter was lightning fast.
The only other course that I know of that had Tifdwarf greens was Copper Mill. Copper Mill's greens sucked for years. Hopefully they will do better with Tifeagle.
When you mix the tiny size of Webb's greens with their inferior genetic makeup and add 45,000 hacks trampling them down 363 days a year -- you have a recipe for one of the most difficult golf course superintendent jobs in America.
From what I've heard though, BREC may be considering enlarging and renovating greens at both Webb and City to something similar to what's going on out at Clark. Until then, if you see Mike Drury out at Webb, buy him a coke.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:04 pm to jgoodw318
I walk 9 (sometimes sneak into the back). Eliminate carts, cut back on hackers.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:11 pm to LSUGolfman
Totally agree that the age and size of the greens is a huge issue with that amount of play. I'd love if they renovated all of them with larger putting surfaces for those reasons alone.
Exciting what they've done with a few of the greens at City Park. I've heard it's been successful. Could be a fantastic 9 hole course if they can get that going as well.
You're right about the management roles in a traditional sense, but I think Kevin might have more to do with the course as the PGA Pro than you might think. It's not like he's gonna be spending a lot of time giving lessons on the back of a range somewhere (there is none). Mike might be doing what he can, but I've played a lot of rounds at Webb over the last 15 years and don't ever remember meeting Mike, whereas I met Kevin in his first week as he was checking receipts and tidying up around the practice green and 1 tee. Talked a bit about what he/they wish to accomplish around the course and in the facility if possible. Never met the woman who preceded him either as far as I know. I think that says a lot.
Anyway, how many and which courses is Mike superintendent of?
Exciting what they've done with a few of the greens at City Park. I've heard it's been successful. Could be a fantastic 9 hole course if they can get that going as well.
You're right about the management roles in a traditional sense, but I think Kevin might have more to do with the course as the PGA Pro than you might think. It's not like he's gonna be spending a lot of time giving lessons on the back of a range somewhere (there is none). Mike might be doing what he can, but I've played a lot of rounds at Webb over the last 15 years and don't ever remember meeting Mike, whereas I met Kevin in his first week as he was checking receipts and tidying up around the practice green and 1 tee. Talked a bit about what he/they wish to accomplish around the course and in the facility if possible. Never met the woman who preceded him either as far as I know. I think that says a lot.
Anyway, how many and which courses is Mike superintendent of?
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 4:38 pm
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