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How do you identify a sandbagger?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:24 pm
We have a guy in our golf group that regularly beats his cap in our tournaments. He rarely if ever beats his cap in friendlies.
Just this past week he shot 77 as a 13 cap (-8 net) to win our PGA tournament. He has finished first in 6 of our last 20 tournaments (we play 4 tournaments a year) in which the field consists of 28-32 guys. Each first place finish he has beaten his cap by at least 3 strokes.
Now we've had guys shoot net 61s to win but no one consistently beats their cap in our tournaments like him.
I say he needs a handicap adjustment but most in our group say he is just a grinder and tough competitor.
Would your club or group label him a sandbagger?
Or is he just a tough competitor?
Thanks for your time.
Just this past week he shot 77 as a 13 cap (-8 net) to win our PGA tournament. He has finished first in 6 of our last 20 tournaments (we play 4 tournaments a year) in which the field consists of 28-32 guys. Each first place finish he has beaten his cap by at least 3 strokes.
Now we've had guys shoot net 61s to win but no one consistently beats their cap in our tournaments like him.
I say he needs a handicap adjustment but most in our group say he is just a grinder and tough competitor.
Would your club or group label him a sandbagger?
Or is he just a tough competitor?
Thanks for your time.
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:56 pm to hedgehog
Just play straight up - anyone using NET is a bagger.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:17 pm to BagMan69
Hey! Why have you never manned up and say that you will play me???
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:22 pm to hedgehog
Only net -8 I've seen in tourneys are the 23+ handicappers that have a good day and shoot 95-97.
A 13 dropping a 77 is fishy AF
A 13 dropping a 77 is fishy AF
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:27 pm to Toula
Exactly my thoughts. Which is why I'm for adjusting his cap down in our tourneys. But he will then probably shoot 75 as an 11.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:27 pm to hedgehog
quote:
Just this past week he shot 77 as a 13 cap
This should occur maybe once a year if that, it happens, but rare
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:36 pm to TheMailman
A couple of people have asked Bagman to play. You're not the only one. I suspect he is either a troll, or a female. His post style is very effeminate. I could be mistake completely, though. Bagman may be a lesbian.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:54 pm to Front9Bandit
quote:
This should occur maybe once a year if that, it happens, but rare
For sure. And doubtful it'd be during a tournament round.
What are his past tournament scores? Shouldn't they be bringing his handicap down though? They stay in longer than regular rounds.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:10 pm to bamafan425
Nothing extraordinary this season but he places in the top ten every tourney and finishes first once a year (at -3 or better) out of 4 possible tourneys. His best rounds i.e. He beats his cap by 3 or more are in our tournaments. We putt out; no gimmes FTR.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:27 pm to hedgehog
Handicap based on tourney scores.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:22 pm to medtiger
If there is no reason to play during the friendly rounds and they are counting on his handicap then yes he's sandbagging. As well you all should. Make some wagers on the friendly rounds and see if he changes his tune.
I play in a league with 12 tournament a year. All count and all payout. There is usually one or two guys that play well below their handicap and win a bunch but eventually it catches up. usually toward the final tournament. They'll be leading points and never win it all.
I play in a league with 12 tournament a year. All count and all payout. There is usually one or two guys that play well below their handicap and win a bunch but eventually it catches up. usually toward the final tournament. They'll be leading points and never win it all.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:06 am to hedgehog
I've been anywhere from a 12-16 over the last 10+ years, and I've broken 80 maybe twice in that time, none in down/putt out style tournaments.
Your boy is a bagger.
Your boy is a bagger.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 7:07 am to hedgehog
Anyone who wants to play sandies (or any of those bullshite games), wolf, and claims a 7 handicap...Bagger
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:02 am to hedgehog
OH shite!!!!
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:05 am to hedgehog
There is more than one questionable cap in this group. A few multiple winners in the last few years.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:18 am to Wormburner
I will say this even though it's not a very popular stance, anyone who sandbags is the exact same as a guy who will move his ball in the rough, ground his Club in a hazard, or cheat in any other fashion. He is a cheater, no ifs, ands, or buts!
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:24 am to Wormburner
Fact, Worm.
Players beating their cap only in tournaments.
Players beating their cap two tournaments in a row.
Shady to say the least.
Players beating their cap only in tournaments.
Players beating their cap two tournaments in a row.
Shady to say the least.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:03 pm to hedgehog
Sounds like y'all need a better format.
Or start cheating
Or start cheating
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:25 pm to medtiger
I refer guys to that website all the time. We have a couple 11 handicaps that will shoot 7 below their adjusted handicap and I always joke with them that they better frame that card and ball because that's a once a century type score. Their excuse is they play better when money is on the line. Dumbest shite I've ever heard.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 10:23 pm
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