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Explanation of Spieth's drop yesterday?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:41 am
I'm a little confused about what happened on 13 yesterday. It was my understanding he took an unplayable lie penalty which gives him 2 club lengths for relief. Why was he able to go back so far for his drop? Did it have something to do with the overhead camera wires possibly obstructing his shot?
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:43 am to Oddibe
Unplayable is two Club lengths, or as far back as he wants, keeping a straight line with the flag.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:46 am to Oddibe
You have three options when taking an unplayable...
Under penalty of one stroke, you can:
1) Replay the previous shot from as close as possible to the spot of the previous shot (in this case, from the tee)
2) the two club lengths from the nearest point of relief, no closer to the hole
3) go back as far as you want keeping the line between the hole and where the original shot came to rest
He took the third option. The rest of the fiasco related to the temporary unremovable obstructions (tour trailers) and line of sight relief he was entitled to from there.
Under penalty of one stroke, you can:
1) Replay the previous shot from as close as possible to the spot of the previous shot (in this case, from the tee)
2) the two club lengths from the nearest point of relief, no closer to the hole
3) go back as far as you want keeping the line between the hole and where the original shot came to rest
He took the third option. The rest of the fiasco related to the temporary unremovable obstructions (tour trailers) and line of sight relief he was entitled to from there.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:46 am to HoLeInOnEr05
Thanks. Was not aware of that option.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:49 am to Oddibe
You can
1. Retee
2. Drop within 2 club lengths of where the ball rests
3. Drop in a direct line with the hole as far back as you want to.
Spieth took option 3. By going straight back he had to drop behind the equipment trailors. He was then entitled to the nearest point of relief from a temporary immovable obstruction (the trailors). Part of what took so long is to figure out what the "nearest point of relwif" was. Spieth wanted to drop on the right side of the trailors (which he ended up doing) because it gave him the best line, but he was near the middle so the rules officials had to determine if his nearest point of relief was to the left or right of the trailors.
1. Retee
2. Drop within 2 club lengths of where the ball rests
3. Drop in a direct line with the hole as far back as you want to.
Spieth took option 3. By going straight back he had to drop behind the equipment trailors. He was then entitled to the nearest point of relief from a temporary immovable obstruction (the trailors). Part of what took so long is to figure out what the "nearest point of relwif" was. Spieth wanted to drop on the right side of the trailors (which he ended up doing) because it gave him the best line, but he was near the middle so the rules officials had to determine if his nearest point of relief was to the left or right of the trailors.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:50 am to HoLeInOnEr05
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Unplayable is two Club lengths, or as far back as he wants, keeping a straight line with the flag.
Yes. Then, he was able to get relief due to the fixed obstruction (the Titleist truck), which is how he ended up on the practice tee, which was in play this week.
If you can find it, Golf Channel did an interview with the head referee yesterday after the round and he walked them through everything.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:52 am to Oddibe
That may save you a shot one day!
Here's the crazy thing... you can take an unplayable anywhere but OB or in a Water Hazard.
Let's say you're playing on crazy fast greens and you have a 3 footer that you miss and it rolls completely off the green and into some thick rough. You could technically take an unplayable, take a penalty stroke and replay the three footer.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:50 am to dpd901
quote:
Let's say you're playing on crazy fast greens and you have a 3 footer that you miss and it rolls completely off the green and into some thick rough. You could technically take an unplayable, take a penalty stroke and replay the three footer.
I don't see how this falls within the rule.
ETA: nevermind.. it looks like it does. Damn..
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:34 am to dpd901
quote:
That may save you a shot one day!
Here's the crazy thing... you can take an unplayable anywhere but OB or in a Water Hazard.
Let's say you're playing on crazy fast greens and you have a 3 footer that you miss and it rolls completely off the green and into some thick rough. You could technically take an unplayable, take a penalty stroke and replay the three footer.
I am not sure I like this rule.....seems like a loophole that you can take,advantage of. I don't know what constitutes unplayable. There was one golfer whose ball got stuck in a tree. I would call that unplayable. But Speith's was visible in the thick grass since he could identify that it was his ball. I think he should have been made to play the ball where it was. There were no obstructions to his swing, etc.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:39 am to gumbeaux
quote:It's at the discretion of the golfer. You are taking a penalty stroke rather than hitting it. Happens often in hazards but can take place elsewhere. There's no objective difference between being against a tree and being stuck deep in the middle of 2 ft of grass.
I don't know what constitutes unplayable.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:59 am to gumbeaux
quote:
. I think he should have been made to play the ball where it was. There were no obstructions to his swing, etc.
Well, there are lots of things I THINK should be in the rules of golf, but aren't.
End of the day, on every golf swing you ever play, you always have the option to replay the shot from as close as possible to the original shot under penalty of one stroke.
You also, unless the ball is out of bounds or lost, always have the option to play the ball as it lies. If it's on a sprinkler head, on a cart path, or at the bottom of a pond, you are entitled to take a swing at it (local rules aside)
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:21 pm to ell_13
quote:
I don't know what constitutes unplayable.
It's at the discretion of the golfer.
Exactly. You can take an unplayable from the middle of the fairway if you want to.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:22 pm to dpd901
quote:
the two club lengths from the nearest point of relief, no closer to the hole
Is that actually an option? I didn't think it was.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:42 pm to Dawgsontop34
It's actually two club lengths from where the ball currently lies, no nearer the hole. There is no "relief" when it comes to unplayable.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:43 pm to MountainTiger
quote:
t's actually two club lengths from where the ball currently lies, no nearer the hole. There is no "relief" when it comes to unplayable.
That's what I thought and why I asked the question. Appreciate you clearing that up.
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